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Today's Hike
7/28/05, 5:47pm (Last Edited: 7/28/05, 5:48pm)
Last week I wanted to hike San Gorgonio Mountain, but Hurricane Emily brought those thunderstorms into our mountains and deserts, so I decided to play safe and wait a week. Then, the monsoonal flow showed up in the middle of this week and brought the thunderstorms back. I wasn't going to stay out of the mountains two weeks in a row, so I decided to just change my plans and head to Baldy again instead and hope the storms didn't make it that far west.

I wanted something a bit more challenging though, to prepare me for Langley next week and Whitney's Mountaineer's Route the week after, so I headed up the Bear Canyon Trail, often considered to be one of the three most difficult dayhikes in Southern California.

The hike was great, except for the high humidity at the lower elevations. Once I got above about 9,000' it became much cooler and bearable. I could see storm clouds building over San Gorgonio to the east and the rest of the San Gabriels to the west, but Baldy remained mostly cloud free until after I'd visited the summit.

The clouds were rolling in a little slowly, so I figured I'd pick up West Baldy again also before heading down. Just before I started heading back down from West Baldy, I stopped to study the cloud forming above me, trying to decide if I felt it was overly threatening. Something in the back of my mind kept bugging me like a thought that just can't form completely. Finally, my sub-conscience broke through the barrier and yelled in my mind "Look DOWN you idiot!"

That's when I realized that about 100 feet down the gentle slope in front of me was one of the rarest sights you could come across in our local mountains: a small herd of six bighorn sheep, just standing there looking up at me. I've been wanting to see these sheep up close for years and suddenly there's a half dozen right in front of me.

I reached for the camera, fumbled with the lens cap, turned the camera on and zoomed in to get a picture. My fumbling with the camera spooked them and they started to trot off, but I managed to get a couple shots off anyway. Not as good as I would have hoped, but the experience was too cool for me to care much about that.

These sheep are very rare down here. I read somewhere that there are only about 50 believed to be still living in our mountains. I can't remember if that's for all of Southern California or just the San Gabriels, though. Either way, that's a very large area for them to roam around in, much of it almost completely inaccessible to humans. Kind of ironic that Carol posted that other message about the sheep today, too...

I'll have the rest of the pictures from today's hike up in the next day or two.

Oh yeah... And we're just a couple days away from August and there's still snow in the San Gabriels?!? Unreal!

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Re: Today's Hike
7/28/05, 6:23pm
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Hi, Lon,

How neat!!!! I've never seen those.

I've only seen desert bighorn and even then just at the preserve in Palm Springs.

Can't wait to see the rest of the pictures.

PS: More monsoonal stuff on the way, especially on Sunday.

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Sheep in them hills.......
7/29/05, 6:53am
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Now thats neat! We're taking a ride up to Baldy in October and I'm going to put your sheep pic in the newsletter. Thanks for sharing Lonnie.

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7/29/05, 11:44am
>I've only seen desert bighorn and even then just at the
>preserve in Palm Springs.

The only bighorn I've seen that close before were at the L.A. Zoo. I did see a couple in the mountains once, two or three years ago. I was in the Tarn below San Gorgonio when I saw two of them. They were on the other side of the Tarn though, about a quarter mile away. It was close enough for me to know they were sheep and not deer, but I definitely wouldn't consider that one a "close encounter."

>Can't wait to see the rest of the pictures.

The pictures have made it through Photoshop. Now I'm working on the web pages. Hopefully I'll have that done by sometime tomorrow afternoon.

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7/29/05, 11:46am
>Now thats neat! We're taking a ride up to Baldy in October

Is that before or after the Carson Pass trip?

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7/29/05, 11:50am
Here's one more picture I really liked from yesterday's hike. It's just a lowly Gray Squirrel, but I liked how it came out anyway. Not quite a Bighorn Sheep, but he'll do...

(We're never going to get a "Preview Post" button, are we, Rob?)

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7/29/05, 12:18pm
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Right, I forgot about the ones at the L.A. Zoo.

I guess its more accurate for me to say I've never seen one in the wild.

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7/29/05, 4:37pm
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>>Now thats neat! We're taking a ride up to Baldy in October
>
>Is that before or after the Carson Pass trip?


Actually Mt Baldy is in November...Just looked it up. Hope it wont be to cold there then.

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7/29/05, 4:38pm
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Another good pic....All of you put my pics to shame.

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Big Horn Sheep
7/29/05, 4:41pm
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We did have an encounter with a big horn sheep just once. To close of an encounter! We were leading a ride down Angeles Crest above Newcombs and one came out of no where on our right...straight down a CLIFF and across the road in front of us. Thank goodness it was just far enough away that we could gently put on our brakes and slow down. He was moving right along...

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7/29/05, 5:28pm
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Wow! That must have been a shock.

The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then it tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up behind me.

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7/29/05, 7:52pm
>Can't wait to see the rest of the pictures.

They're online now. http://www.ldphotography.net/Hikes/20050728/

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7/29/05, 7:54pm
>We were leading a ride down Angeles
>Crest above Newcombs and one came out of no where on our
>right...straight down a CLIFF and across the road in front of
>us.

That sounds a lot like a near miss I had with a mule deer in the same area.

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7/29/05, 10:27pm
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>>Can't wait to see the rest of the pictures.
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>They're online now.
>http://www.ldphotography.net/Hikes/20050728/
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Cool! I'm heading right over there.

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7/29/05, 10:55pm
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Neat pics!

Looks like a great hike. I can see why you wouldn't want to be on the summit if there was a lightning storm going on.

I wonder what the fire lookouts do in the summer when storms are brewing?

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7/29/05, 11:12pm (Last Edited: 7/29/05, 11:14pm)
>I wonder what the fire lookouts do in the summer when storms
>are brewing?

They sit on their stool in the middle of the tower. Really...

This isn't the clearest picture, but...

The wooden stool leaning against the locator has glass insulators (like on power poles) on the ends of the legs so it doesn't conduct electricity. I learned this from Huell Howser, on a show where he visited one of the towers.

That picture was taken in the Tahquitz Peak lookout tower, by the way.

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7/30/05, 6:11am
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>Wow! That must have been a shock.
>
>The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on
>Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot
>across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer
>cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then it
>tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up
>behind me.

OK, here's my story. Years and years ago, when I had a jeep, I went for a jeep ride on our Mulholland Drive (the dirt part). It was like 11:30 at night and there was another Jeep with me with a couple of friends along. So here we are blasting through the night and I look over and see a deer. Wow, I think..a deer, right here in the middle of Los Angeles...well..while I was in amazment, my foot didn't let off the gas and suddenly I lost control of the jeep. I hit the side of the mountain and did a turn which put the jeep up on two wheels, just like the circus!

So I had to make a split-second choice..turn back into the mountan and flip the jeep, or turn away and take my chances with going off the edge. I don't know why I made the decision that I did, but I turned towards the edge. Fortunatly, the jeep did NOT go over the edge, but instead, the front wheel hit the embankment and literally sheared off! It stopped me before I could go over the edge!

I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....

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Re: Big Horn Sheep
7/30/05, 6:15am
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>>We were leading a ride down Angeles
>>Crest above Newcombs and one came out of no where on our
>>right...straight down a CLIFF and across the road in front
>of
>>us.
>
>That sounds a lot like a near miss I had with a mule deer in
>the same area.


Funny thing is in my mind it seemed so BIG coming at us that way. For sure a hazard we constantly keep in mind.

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7/30/05, 6:17am
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Hey thats neat! Talk about a lonely job! Yikes!

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Re: Big Horn Sheep
7/30/05, 6:20am
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>>Wow! That must have been a shock.
>>
>>The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on
>>Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot
>>across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer
>>cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then
>it
>>tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up
>>behind me.
>
>OK, here's my story. Years and years ago, when I had a jeep, I
>went for a jeep ride on our Mulholland Drive (the dirt part).
>It was like 11:30 at night and there was another Jeep with me
>with a couple of friends along. So here we are blasting
>through the night and I look over and see a deer. Wow, I
>think..a deer, right here in the middle of Los
>Angeles...well..while I was in amazment, my foot didn't let
>off the gas and suddenly I lost control of the jeep. I hit
>the side of the mountain and did a turn which put the jeep up
>on two wheels, just like the circus!
>
>So I had to make a split-second choice..turn back into the
>mountan and flip the jeep, or turn away and take my chances
>with going off the edge. I don't know why I made the decision
>that I did, but I turned towards the edge. Fortunatly, the
>jeep did NOT go over the edge, but instead, the front wheel
>hit the embankment and literally sheared off! It stopped me
>before I could go over the edge!
>
>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>
>

And folks think motorcycles are dangerous! Never done the off road thing. It scares me spitless..........and in the dark...No thanks.

Your heart musta been going warp 90 BB....

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Re: Big Horn Sheep
7/30/05, 9:07am
>Funny thing is in my mind it seemed so BIG coming at us that
>way. For sure a hazard we constantly keep in mind.

It doesn't take a big animal to bring down a motorcycle... And they are big, anyway.

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7/30/05, 10:46am
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Ah, an insulated stool. That makes sense...just keep your feet off the floor! That does answer my question. Thanks!

Gee Tahquitz lookout has a stove! I don't think Vetter Peak has that?

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7/30/05, 10:49am
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>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>

Yikes!!!!!!!! Glad you were ok.

Yep, I bet the deer was laughing like those squirrels in that car commercial...Ever see that one? Its great.

Hmmmm, the dirt part of Mulholland Dr. Yep, lots of old times up there. Remember the old nike missle base?

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7/31/05, 12:44am
>Gee Tahquitz lookout has a stove! I don't think Vetter Peak
>has that?

I'm pretty sure it does, but I can't find any pictures of it right now. Apparently I've never taken any of the inside of that tower. I guess that just gives me a reason to go back there again...

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7/31/05, 1:06am (Last Edited: 7/31/05, 2:11am)
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>Wow! That must have been a shock.
>
>The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on
>Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot
>across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer
>cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then
>it
>tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up
>behind me.
>
>OK, here's my story. Years and years ago, when I had a jeep, I
>went for a jeep ride on our Mulholland Drive (the dirt part).
>It was like 11:30 at night and there was another Jeep with me
>with a couple of friends along. So here we are blasting
>through the night and I look over and see a deer. Wow, I
>think..a deer, right here in the middle of Los
>Angeles...well..while I was in amazment, my foot didn't let
>off the gas and suddenly I lost control of the jeep. I hit
>the side of the mountain and did a turn which put the jeep up
>on two wheels, just like the circus!
>
>So I had to make a split-second choice..turn back into the
>mountan and flip the jeep, or turn away and take my chances
>with going off the edge. I don't know why I made the decision
>that I did, but I turned towards the edge. Fortunatly, the
>jeep did NOT go over the edge, but instead, the front wheel
>hit the embankment and literally sheared off! It stopped me
>before I could go over the edge!
>
>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>
>A great story, Mr. Blast, have not related this one of mine but having read yours it brought it to mind.

I have overall, been incredibly lucky, I have survived a number of things including being "having just left a warzone, at the right time", prior to being "overrun".
I have been told I have more than 9 lives.
About 3 years ago I returned from a trip to Hawaii.
It was about 5. am. and I had not slept more than a couple of hours.
I had breakfast and lots of coffee prior to heading up to my (primary)residence at the time, Big Bear.

I had been away for about a month and did not think about the fact of combining lack of sleep with driving in to "a much higher altitude".
As I ascented up the mountain I felt a "need to sleep", I was "fighting it" and being the stubborn person that I am, felt I would be O'K, and would make it to Big Bear.

As I fought the tiredness I suddenly found myself seeing the edge of a mountain cliff, I did all I could, feverishly fighting the inevitible by turning the wheel, however it was too late and I "sailed through the air" in to the unknown.

The treeline was about 50' across, "sailing through the air "either side of the treeline would mean a "drop to the valley below", perhaps many hundreds of feet "straight down".


My feverishness in turning the wheel meant the car went over backwards, it put me in the trees,( about 100' below) instead of the valley below that.

The car ended up in the trees at a 90 degree angle, I was at first very stunned, with what turned out to be broken ribs, but since I was still breathing I felt that the "guardian Angel" who is Always with me had ""shown up" just in time.

Soon people appeared at the top of the cliff and shouted " are you O'K,", since I ALWAYS am, I immediately said "Yes".
There was that Angel again reminding me of my almost invincibility, (or so I think.).

Soon rescue vehicles showed up, and I was told "do not move", since being in the trees was somewhat precarious, the "boughs might move at any moment", with the pressure of the car, and "off I would go".

Confident as I always am about my destiny I sat there and had an ongoing chat with those above me, if I had had a Champagne bottle handy I would have "popped the cork", in thanks of being "still around".

They first secured the car around me and then sent cables in my direction, then secured me for a trip to the top of the ridge, I REALLY found this very exiting., I "clambered the last stretch to the top", even though I was told to let them pull me up the whole way.

Upon getting to the top I was met by rescue as well as members of the Highway Patrol.
I was "checked out" as to sobriety and then had a very nice chat with one of the officers.
He was one of two responding officers , and was driving a 4 wheel drive vehicle.
He offered to drive me the rest of the way up to Big Bear, at least 30 miles from that point, he also insisted on loading my travel bags in to his vehicle.

We had a great chat "up to the top", Kevin had been a Marine in "Iraq 1" (91).

Of course we talked War, and my Vietnam experience, as well as a pride in our respective Children.
When I got to my house Kevin insisted on carring my bags to the top of the stairs, he would not let me do a thing.

I soon made a call to the Highway Patrol office in Lake Arrowhead to impress on them my gratitude for the incredible service rendered to me, (an ordinary citizen), by one of their
Patrolmen.

The lady who answered the phone thanked me for taking the time to call, and told me that Patrolman Kevin Pack was under consideration for sergeant, and a wanted transfer to the San Fernando Valley, she told me that my call and a subsequent letter would be very beneficial to him, I followed through and sent the letter.
I called back weeks later and learned that Kevin WAS awarded the promotion and transfer.

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7/31/05, 5:42am
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>>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>>
>
>Yikes!!!!!!!! Glad you were ok.
>
>Yep, I bet the deer was laughing like those squirrels in that
>car commercial...Ever see that one? Its great.
>
>Hmmmm, the dirt part of Mulholland Dr. Yep, lots of old times
>up there. Remember the old nike missle base?

Not only do I remember it, but there is now a bike trail that goes right though it! Still a helicopter landing pad up there but everything else is gone. (probably a good thing!)

And btw, when you take that bike trail, you come up from the other side..and it is a STEEP mother! Tough ride to the top.

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7/31/05, 5:50am
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>>Wow! That must have been a shock.
>>
>>The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on
>>Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot
>>across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer
>>cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then
>>it
>>tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up
>>behind me.
>>
>>OK, here's my story. Years and years ago, when I had a jeep,
>I
>>went for a jeep ride on our Mulholland Drive (the dirt
>part).
>>It was like 11:30 at night and there was another Jeep with
>me
>>with a couple of friends along. So here we are blasting
>>through the night and I look over and see a deer. Wow, I
>>think..a deer, right here in the middle of Los
>>Angeles...well..while I was in amazment, my foot didn't let
>>off the gas and suddenly I lost control of the jeep. I hit
>>the side of the mountain and did a turn which put the jeep
>up
>>on two wheels, just like the circus!
>>
>>So I had to make a split-second choice..turn back into the
>>mountan and flip the jeep, or turn away and take my chances
>>with going off the edge. I don't know why I made the
>decision
>>that I did, but I turned towards the edge. Fortunatly, the
>>jeep did NOT go over the edge, but instead, the front wheel
>>hit the embankment and literally sheared off! It stopped me
>>before I could go over the edge!
>>
>>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>>
>>A great story, Mr. Blast, have not related this one of mine
>but having read yours it brought it to mind.
>
>I have overall, been incredibly lucky, I have survived a
>number of things including being "having just left a warzone,
>at the right time", prior to being "overrun".
>I have been told I have more than 9 lives.
>About 3 years ago I returned from a trip to Hawaii.
> It was about 5. am. and I had not slept more than a couple of
>hours.
>I had breakfast and lots of coffee prior to heading up to my
>(primary)residence at the time, Big Bear.
>
>I had been away for about a month and did not think about the
>fact of combining lack of sleep with driving in to "a much
>higher altitude".
>As I ascented up the mountain I felt a "need to sleep", I was
>"fighting it" and being the stubborn person that I am, felt I
>would be O'K, and would make it to Big Bear.
>
>As I fought the tiredness I suddenly found myself seeing the
>edge of a mountain cliff, I did all I could, feverishly
>fighting the inevitible by turning the wheel, however it was
>too late and I "sailed through the air" in to the unknown.
>
>The treeline was about 50' across, "sailing through the air
>"either side of the treeline would mean a "drop to the valley
>below", perhaps many hundreds of feet "straight down".
>
>
>My feverishness in turning the wheel meant the car went over
>backwards, it put me in the trees,( about 100' below) instead
>of the valley below that.
>
>The car ended up in the trees at a 90 degree angle, I was at
>first very stunned, with what turned out to be broken ribs,
>but since I was still breathing I felt that the "guardian
>Angel" who is Always with me had ""shown up" just in time.
>
>Soon people appeared at the top of the cliff and shouted " are
>you O'K,", since I ALWAYS am, I immediately said "Yes".
>There was that Angel again reminding me of my almost
>invincibility, (or so I think.).
>
>Soon rescue vehicles showed up, and I was told "do not move",
>since being in the trees was somewhat precarious, the "boughs
>might move at any moment", with the pressure of the car, and
>"off I would go".
>
>Confident as I always am about my destiny I sat there and had
>an ongoing chat with those above me, if I had had a Champagne
>bottle handy I would have "popped the cork", in thanks of
>being "still around".
>
>They first secured the car around me and then sent cables in
>my direction, then secured me for a trip to the top of the
>ridge, I REALLY found this very exiting., I "clambered the
>last stretch to the top", even though I was told to let them
>pull me up the whole way.
>
>Upon getting to the top I was met by rescue as well as members
>of the Highway Patrol.
>I was "checked out" as to sobriety and then had a very nice
>chat with one of the officers.
>He was one of two responding officers , and was driving a 4
>wheel drive vehicle.
>He offered to drive me the rest of the way up to Big Bear, at
>least 30 miles from that point, he also insisted on loading my
>travel bags in to his vehicle.
>
>We had a great chat "up to the top", Kevin had been a Marine
>in "Iraq 1" (91).
>
>Of course we talked War, and my Vietnam experience, as well
>as a pride in our respective Children.
>When I got to my house Kevin insisted on carring my bags to
>the top of the stairs, he would not let me do a thing.
>
>I soon made a call to the Highway Patrol office in Lake
>Arrowhead to impress on them my gratitude for the incredible
>service rendered to me, (an ordinary citizen), by one of their
>
>Patrolmen.
>
>The lady who answered the phone thanked me for taking the time
>to call, and told me that Patrolman Kevin Pack was under
>consideration for sergeant, and a wanted transfer to the San
>Fernando Valley, she told me that my call and a subsequent
>letter would be very beneficial to him, I followed through and
>sent the letter.
>I called back weeks later and learned that Kevin WAS awarded
>the promotion and transfer.
>
>

You are indeed a lucky man!

Now, how do we get Kevin to log on here?

(speaking of Big Bear, the wife and I were recently checking out the cabin rentals around Big Bear. Big Bear is a WONDERFUL place especially after a long hot summer in the valley....the place feels "air conditioned"!)

Also, the mountain biking in the summer is REALLY nice up there!

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Larry Levy  
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7/31/05, 1:06pm
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>>Gee Tahquitz lookout has a stove! I don't think Vetter Peak
>>has that?
>
>I'm pretty sure it does, but I can't find any pictures of it
>right now. Apparently I've never taken any of the inside of
>that tower. I guess that just gives me a reason to go back
>there again...
>

I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site: http://www.cpwf.org/fire/lookout.html and see if there is a stove. I know in one of his logs, he said he brought a bunch of
nutragrain bars to eat and never said anything about cooking in any of his logs on there. Maybe he just doesn't bother and a stive is there?

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Bighorns
7/31/05, 1:07pm
That is awesome and the fact that you did get at least a fleeting photo of them too. I had a close encounter with Bighorns while riding a motorcycle near Salida Colorado. When I came across the sheep I cut the motor on the bike and sat and watched. They were browsing down a rivershed area and they were not overly alarmed with my presence. They worked their way by me sometimes not more than about 30 yards away. I watched them browse about and wander past. The encounter lasted about 30 to 40 minutes. They were in no hurry. If I remember right there was about 8 of them. I did not have my camera with me that day as I was concerned about taking a spill on the bike and/or the heavy rains that popped up every day.

While in California, I spent a lot of time glassing likely areas for bighorns but never spotted one during my trip. In Colorado they were more of them so they were a little easier to find.

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7/31/05, 1:13pm
>>Wow! That must have been a shock.
>>
>>The same thing happened to us a few weeks ago with a deer on
>>Malibu Canyon Rd. We came around a bend and this deer shot
>>across the road and then scrambled UP the side of a sheer
>>cliff. I stopped because it fell back to the road, but then
>it
>>tried again and up it went. Good thing no one was coming up
>>behind me.
>
>OK, here's my story. Years and years ago, when I had a jeep, I
>went for a jeep ride on our Mulholland Drive (the dirt part).
>It was like 11:30 at night and there was another Jeep with me
>with a couple of friends along. So here we are blasting
>through the night and I look over and see a deer. Wow, I
>think..a deer, right here in the middle of Los
>Angeles...well..while I was in amazment, my foot didn't let
>off the gas and suddenly I lost control of the jeep. I hit
>the side of the mountain and did a turn which put the jeep up
>on two wheels, just like the circus!
>
>So I had to make a split-second choice..turn back into the
>mountan and flip the jeep, or turn away and take my chances
>with going off the edge. I don't know why I made the decision
>that I did, but I turned towards the edge. Fortunatly, the
>jeep did NOT go over the edge, but instead, the front wheel
>hit the embankment and literally sheared off! It stopped me
>before I could go over the edge!
>
>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>
>

Yikes!!!

We used to joke about those squirrels(from the commercial) when I was with the S.O. I responded to a call where an ederly woman had swerved off the road to avoid hitting a squirrel. She ran into a ditch severely damaging her car. Luckily she didn't injure herself or her even more ederly father. The father said if she would have run over one of those squirrels it would have ruined her whole day.

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7/31/05, 1:16pm
Double Yikes!!! Holy Cow!

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7/31/05, 3:37pm
>I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site:

I just gave it a quick look and don't see a stove in any pictures. I've been to 5 towers (Vetter, South Hawkins, Frazier, Butler and Tahquitz), and I thought I remembered them all being pretty much the same inside, including stoves. I could be wrong, though.

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7/31/05, 3:41pm
>While in California, I spent a lot of time glassing likely
>areas for bighorns but never spotted one during my trip.

I've hiked and driven in several places where they're known to live and always keep a particularly vigilant eye out looking for them. I'd never had an encounter like this before, though.

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7/31/05, 5:02pm
graphic
>>I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site:
>
>I just gave it a quick look and don't see a stove in any
>pictures. I've been to 5 towers (Vetter, South Hawkins,
>Frazier, Butler and Tahquitz), and I thought I remembered them
>all being pretty much the same inside, including stoves. I
>could be wrong, though.

It would seem like the USFS, being a government agency (you know how agencies like to have specs) would mandate that the lookouts be outfitted the same. Maybe, since these are now run by nonprofit groups, they are set up differently?

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murphy brown  
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8/1/05, 2:41pm
graphic
>>Funny thing is in my mind it seemed so BIG coming at us that
>>way. For sure a hazard we constantly keep in mind.
>
>It doesn't take a big animal to bring down a motorcycle... And
>they are big, anyway.


They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none the less I gree.

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murphy brown  
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8/1/05, 2:43pm
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>>I survived..the jeep survived...and I could have sworn that
>>while I was sitting there, I heard this deer, laughing.....
>>
>
>Yikes!!!!!!!! Glad you were ok.
>
>Yep, I bet the deer was laughing like those squirrels in that
>car commercial...Ever see that one? Its great.
>
>Hmmmm, the dirt part of Mulholland Dr. Yep, lots of old times
>up there. Remember the old nike missle base?


Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of Mulholland Dr Larry? ...leer!

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8/1/05, 5:30pm
>They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none the
>less I gree.

Everyone in your group rides a trike? I didn't know that.

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8/1/05, 10:02pm
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>Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of Mulholland
>Dr Larry? ...leer!

Your honor, the defendant was never advised of his rights!

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murphy brown  
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8/2/05, 6:26am
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>>>I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site:
>>
>>I just gave it a quick look and don't see a stove in any
>>pictures. I've been to 5 towers (Vetter, South Hawkins,
>>Frazier, Butler and Tahquitz), and I thought I remembered
>them
>>all being pretty much the same inside, including stoves. I
>>could be wrong, though.
>
>It would seem like the USFS, being a government agency (you
>know how agencies like to have specs) would mandate that the
>lookouts be outfitted the same. Maybe, since these are now run
>by nonprofit groups, they are set up differently?


Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the pic to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL

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murphy brown  
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8/2/05, 6:27am
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>>They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none
>the
>>less I gree.
>
>Everyone in your group rides a trike? I didn't know that.


No the only trikes are ours and one other...the other 80 or so bikes are 2 wheels.

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murphy brown  
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8/2/05, 6:30am
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>>Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of
>Mulholland
>>Dr Larry? ...leer!
>
>Your honor, the defendant was never advised of his rights!


You mean kids had rights? Not when I was growing up. They just called your parents and told them! Um I heard about that from others.

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8/2/05, 7:11am
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>>>>I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site:
>>>
>>>I just gave it a quick look and don't see a stove in any
>>>pictures. I've been to 5 towers (Vetter, South Hawkins,
>>>Frazier, Butler and Tahquitz), and I thought I remembered
>>them
>>>all being pretty much the same inside, including stoves. I
>>>could be wrong, though.
>>
>>It would seem like the USFS, being a government agency (you
>>know how agencies like to have specs) would mandate that the
>>lookouts be outfitted the same. Maybe, since these are now
>run
>>by nonprofit groups, they are set up differently?
>
>
>Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the pic
>to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL

Just behind the bed is a small hole in the floor.....

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graphic
>>They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none
>the
>>less I gree.
>
>Everyone in your group rides a trike? I didn't know that.
>
>
>No the only trikes are ours and one other...the other 80 or so
>bikes are 2 wheels.

Do the 2-wheelers ever make fun of you guys? Are the majority of the bikes Hondas, Harleys, or what?

Are the styles all the "american" style where you are sitting up, or are some of the group on those laid-down rice burners?

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>Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the pic
>to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL

I don't know about the rest of the towers, but here's the restroom on Tahquitz Peak. It's seen better days...

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8/2/05, 9:17am
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>>>Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of
>>Mulholland
>>>Dr Larry? ...leer!
>>
>>Your honor, the defendant was never advised of his rights!
>
>
>
>You mean kids had rights? Not when I was growing up. They just
>called your parents and told them! Um I heard about that from
>others.

This story is not nearly as interesting as it sounds. I was your basic pre-computer geek A good Saturday night for me was to tune in to "Emergency" and see what Gage and DeSoto were up to

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8/2/05, 5:03pm
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>>>>>I'll check the pictures on Clarley's site:
>>>>
>>>>I just gave it a quick look and don't see a stove in any
>>>>pictures. I've been to 5 towers (Vetter, South Hawkins,
>>>>Frazier, Butler and Tahquitz), and I thought I remembered
>>>them
>>>>all being pretty much the same inside, including stoves. I
>>>>could be wrong, though.
>>>
>>>It would seem like the USFS, being a government agency (you
>>>know how agencies like to have specs) would mandate that
>the
>>>lookouts be outfitted the same. Maybe, since these are now
>>run
>>>by nonprofit groups, they are set up differently?
>>
>>
>>Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the
>pic
>>to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL
>
>
>
>Just behind the bed is a small hole in the floor.....
>
>

LOL.........

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8/2/05, 5:07pm
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>>>They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none
>>the
>>>less I gree.
>>
>>Everyone in your group rides a trike? I didn't know that.
>>
>>
>>No the only trikes are ours and one other...the other 80 or
>so
>>bikes are 2 wheels.
>
>Do the 2-wheelers ever make fun of you guys? Are the majority
>of the bikes Hondas, Harleys, or what?
>
>Are the styles all the "american" style where you are sitting
>up, or are some of the group on those laid-down rice burners?
>
>

They wouldn't dare make fun of the exhalted leader! I dont think they really approve of the honkin big Goldwings that have been triked out but mine is acceptable.

We got all makes and models of bikes..About a dozen Harleys...probably 2 dozen Goldwings....and the rest you name it
we've got it ACCEPT no rice burners. No frog style riders at all.
We tend to cruise the highway not tear down it...so they dont like riding with us.

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>>Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the
>pic
>>to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL
>
>I don't know about the rest of the towers, but here's the
>restroom on Tahquitz Peak. It's seen better days...
>
>
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>

ROFL!!!

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>>>>Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of
>>>Mulholland
>>>>Dr Larry? ...leer!
>>>
>>>Your honor, the defendant was never advised of his rights!
>>
>>
>>
>>You mean kids had rights? Not when I was growing up. They
>just
>>called your parents and told them! Um I heard about that
>from
>>others.
>
>This story is not nearly as interesting as it sounds. I was
>your basic pre-computer geek A good Saturday night for me
>was to tune in to "Emergency" and see what Gage and DeSoto
>were up to
>
Well I was.....oh never mind.....

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>>Okay I have to ask........wheres the restroom? I sent the
>pic
>>to Mr B and that was his first question? LOL
>
>I don't know about the rest of the towers, but here's the
>restroom on Tahquitz Peak. It's seen better days...
>


>
>

It may not look like much...but if you are gonna have a sit and do your business....what a view!!!


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>>>>Hold it! So what were YOU doing on the dirt part of
>>>Mulholland
>>>>Dr Larry? ...leer!
>>>
>>>Your honor, the defendant was never advised of his rights!
>>
>>
>>
>>You mean kids had rights? Not when I was growing up. They
>just
>>called your parents and told them! Um I heard about that
>from
>>others.
>
>This story is not nearly as interesting as it sounds. I was
>your basic pre-computer geek A good Saturday night for me
>was to tune in to "Emergency" and see what Gage and DeSoto
>were up to
>
>
>
>

Was that a goofy show or what? (Yea, I liked watching it too!)


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8/3/05, 5:16am
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>>>>They are trikes so not near as easy to bring down but none
>>>the
>>>>less I gree.
>>>
>>>Everyone in your group rides a trike? I didn't know that.
>>>
>>>
>>>No the only trikes are ours and one other...the other 80 or
>>so
>>>bikes are 2 wheels.
>>
>>Do the 2-wheelers ever make fun of you guys? Are the
>majority
>>of the bikes Hondas, Harleys, or what?
>>
>>Are the styles all the "american" style where you are
>sitting
>>up, or are some of the group on those laid-down rice
>burners?
>>
>>
>
>They wouldn't dare make fun of the exhalted leader! I dont
>think they really approve of the honkin big Goldwings that
>have been triked out but mine is acceptable.
>
>We got all makes and models of bikes..About a dozen
>Harleys...probably 2 dozen Goldwings....and the rest you name
>it
>we've got it ACCEPT no rice burners. No frog style riders at
>all.
>We tend to cruise the highway not tear down it...so they dont
>like riding with us.
>
>

So how often does your group ride? Is it mainly day rides or the longer trips that you guys go on?

Do you ever do any of those "poker runs" or anything like that? How do you decide where to ride?


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8/3/05, 9:33am
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>>This story is not nearly as interesting as it sounds. I was
>>your basic pre-computer geek A good Saturday night for me
>>was to tune in to "Emergency" and see what Gage and DeSoto
>>were up to
>
>
>Was that a goofy show or what? (Yea, I liked watching it
>too!)

I loved it. You know, the show still has a cult following and the L.A.Co FD Museum has the original Squad 51.

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Re: Big Horn Sheep
8/3/05, 6:03pm
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>So how often does your group ride? Is it mainly day rides or
>the longer trips that you guys go on?
>
>Do you ever do any of those "poker runs" or anything like
>that? How do you decide where to ride?
>
When are you getting a Goldwing BB? We ride the 1st and 3rd Sundays of every month...Some short breakfast rides ...some long haul to Santa Maria and back ride. We have a planning meeting every November and lay out all 24 rides plus some overnights for the coming year. People collect ideas all year long and bring them to the meeting......Its free pizza to anybody that shows up to thank them for their help.

And no we do not do poker runs or any kind of fund raiser rides. Personally I dont feel comfortable riding with a huge group of people. It raises the risk IMHO of accidents and so forth.


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8/4/05, 5:24am
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>>>This story is not nearly as interesting as it sounds. I was
>>>your basic pre-computer geek A good Saturday night for
>me
>>>was to tune in to "Emergency" and see what Gage and DeSoto
>>>were up to
>>
>>
>>Was that a goofy show or what? (Yea, I liked watching it
>>too!)
>
>I loved it. You know, the show still has a cult following and
>the L.A.Co FD Museum has the original Squad 51.
>

Like many things, the memories are better than the reality. Have you caught a re-run lately? The writing on that show..particularly the later seasons, was simply awful!

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8/4/05, 5:29am
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>>So how often does your group ride? Is it mainly day rides
>or
>>the longer trips that you guys go on?
>>
>>Do you ever do any of those "poker runs" or anything like
>>that? How do you decide where to ride?
>>
>When are you getting a Goldwing BB?

I dunno Murph...maybe when the last kid leaves the house..

(or, I win the lottery, whatever comes first)

maybe I will just hold out for a hybred Goldwing....

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8/4/05, 7:03am
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>>>So how often does your group ride? Is it mainly day rides
>>or
>>>the longer trips that you guys go on?
>>>
>>>Do you ever do any of those "poker runs" or anything like
>>>that? How do you decide where to ride?
>>>
>>When are you getting a Goldwing BB?
>
>I dunno Murph...maybe when the last kid leaves the house..
>
>
>
>(or, I win the lottery, whatever comes first)
>
>maybe I will just hold out for a hybred Goldwing....
>
>

Now wouldnt THAT be something? How about 100 miles per gallon?

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8/4/05, 9:32am
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>Like many things, the memories are better than the reality.
>Have you caught a re-run lately? The writing on that
>show..particularly the later seasons, was simply awful!
>
>

I know, almost as bad as the old Dragnets and Adam-12, two of my other favs. I still love them.

Probably the best birthday I ever had was my 21st. My cousin was working at Universal Studios for Roy Huggins (Baretta, etc) and she invited me down for lunch in the commissary and then a visit to the set of Emergency. She was dating the guy who played Fireman Kelly, remember him? I got to hang out on the set and watch them film. It was great! I remember the fire station set looked so realistic, unless of course you looked up to see all the studio lights and realized the walls were all flats

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>It may not look like much...but if you are gonna have a sit
>and do your business....what a view!!!

Ain't that the truth! lol

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8/5/05, 5:39am (Last Edited: 8/5/05, 5:53am)
graphic
>>So how often does your group ride? Is it mainly day rides
>>or
>>the longer trips that you guys go on?
>>
>>Do you ever do any of those "poker runs" or anything like
>>that? How do you decide where to ride?
>>
>>When are you getting a Goldwing BB?
>
>I dunno Murph...maybe when the last kid leaves the house..
>
>
>
>(or, I win the lottery, whatever comes first)
>
>maybe I will just hold out for a hybred Goldwing....
>
>
>
>Now wouldnt THAT be something? How about 100 miles per gallon?
>

What kind of mileage do you get on your trike? And what gas..the expensive stuff or the cheap stuff?

How many miles can you go on one tank full?


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8/5/05, 5:49am
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>>Like many things, the memories are better than the reality.
>>Have you caught a re-run lately? The writing on that
>>show..particularly the later seasons, was simply awful!
>>
>>
>
>I know, almost as bad as the old Dragnets and Adam-12, two of
>my other favs. I still love them.
>
>Probably the best birthday I ever had was my 21st. My cousin
>was working at Universal Studios for Roy Huggins (Baretta,
>etc) and she invited me down for lunch in the commissary and
>then a visit to the set of Emergency. She was dating the guy
>who played Fireman Kelly, remember him? I got to hang out on
>the set and watch them film. It was great! I remember the fire
>station set looked so realistic, unless of course you looked
>up to see all the studio lights and realized the walls were
>all flats
>

As you probably know, I spent a bit of time after college working in some of the studios...and I found that most of the sets were just BORING as hell! Even though, in a series, they really do have things down to a science, I always found the process to be painfully slow.

Hospital sets were always sorta interesting in that, if you looked up, you really did NOT see the lights..that's because they would put in a "ceiling" above the set with, what looks like a normal light fixture. In truth, it was just a piece of plastic and right ABOVE that, were the studio lights. Because a hospital set is "washed out" anyway, they would just flood the sucker with lights. (Nice in that, no light set-up means a faster time between shots.) Also, it meant that they could take shots from a lower angle and not worry about "catching" a studio light.

I remember the first set I was on, "The Hallaluhah Trail". I was but a small lad and my Godfather was the AD (I think..I WAS young) and I remember even then how SLOW the process was. They shot this same scene...oh..7 times maybe...from the same angle so they didn't move the camera or the set that much between shots..and it STILL took like, HOURS for this scene that was maybe 2 minutes long at most.

I have not been on a set in many years, but I hear it now from my friends, between shots....EVERYBODY is on the damm cell phone! And not just calls to Mom....mostly, it is the crew or even the actors or execs that are setting up the NEXT gig.

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8/5/05, 8:42am
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>>Now wouldnt THAT be something? How about 100 miles per
>gallon?
>>
>
>What kind of mileage do you get on your trike? And what
>gas..the expensive stuff or the cheap stuff?
>
>How many miles can you go on one tank full?
>
I get about 40 miles per gallon...cheap gas...havent tested it to the max but about 115 per tank of gas.

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Re: Emergency
8/5/05, 9:43am
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I remember "The Hallaluhah Trail". Good film. That's neat.

Yep, I know from my late dad's "acting" career that its a long, boring process. He used to paint and do needlepoint to pass the time. I have one of his paintings up in our house, along with a couple of his framed needlepoints. Really nice.

Re: My visit to the Emergency set, I didn't care that it was long. I was getting to hang out with the cast and crew from my favorite show, so it didn't matter

Now, I'd really love to be an extra on the Deadwood set. That would be great. They really have some amazing costumes for those guys.

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8/6/05, 4:25am
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>>>Now wouldnt THAT be something? How about 100 miles per
>>gallon?
>>>
>>
>>What kind of mileage do you get on your trike? And what
>>gas..the expensive stuff or the cheap stuff?
>>
>>How many miles can you go on one tank full?
>>
>I get about 40 miles per gallon...cheap gas...havent tested it
>to the max but about 115 per tank of gas.
>
>

Interesting..I would have thought you would get more out of a tank of gas. I know that in cars, they try for the 200+ miles per tank. So that would mean that you have to fill up twice as much...might not be a bad thing though...a good excuse to let the butt muscles relax!

In my old Honda 750, I would try for 150-175 miles per tank. But that was a basic bike...no extras, no windshield.

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8/6/05, 4:30am
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>I remember "The Hallaluhah Trail". Good film. That's neat.
>
>Yep, I know from my late dad's "acting" career that its a
>long, boring process. He used to paint and do needlepoint to
>pass the time. I have one of his paintings up in our house,
>along with a couple of his framed needlepoints. Really nice.
>
>Re: My visit to the Emergency set, I didn't care that it was
>long. I was getting to hang out with the cast and crew from my
>favorite show, so it didn't matter
>
>Now, I'd really love to be an extra on the Deadwood set. That
>would be great. They really have some amazing costumes for
>those guys.
>
>

Yea but.."extras" aren't paid great..and you have to be willing to spend an entire day there..hard to keep a "normal" job.

(But then..there ARE those people, that for some reason, are in the background of every damm tv and movie on the planet...they must know someone at the union!)

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>>Now, I'd really love to be an extra on the Deadwood set.
>That
>>would be great. They really have some amazing costumes for
>>those guys.
>>
>>
>
>Yea but.."extras" aren't paid great..and you have to be
>willing to spend an entire day there..hard to keep a "normal"
>job.
>
>(But then..there ARE those people, that for some reason, are
>in the background of every damm tv and movie on the
>planet...they must know someone at the union!)
>
>

Lol, the kiss up big time to the casting directors That's what my dad used to do and it paid off.

The sad thing is, my dad almost made it. He was set for a recurring, speaking role on Golden Girls as Bea Arthur's boyfriend, Dr. Tanzig, but she refused to work with him because my dad wore a hairpiece and she hates those. Grrrrrrrrrrrr

He can be seen in what was supposed to be the episode where they introduce him. It was one where Bea Arthur was dating Joseph Campanella. He is a detective who has a very young and unknown George Clooney as a partner. Clooney gets shot, but he's ok at the end of the episode and Bea Arthur decides she can't be in love with a policeman....in walks my dad the doctor

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8/6/05, 2:30pm
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>>I get about 40 miles per gallon...cheap gas...havent tested
>it
>>to the max but about 115 per tank of gas.
>
>Interesting..I would have thought you would get more out of a
>tank of gas. I know that in cars, they try for the 200+ miles
>per tank. So that would mean that you have to fill up twice
>as much...might not be a bad thing though...a good excuse to
>let the butt muscles relax!
>
>In my old Honda 750, I would try for 150-175 miles per tank.
>But that was a basic bike...no extras, no windshield.
>
The VTX is an 1800cc motorcycle with a trike conversation so the combination of the two makes for poorer gas milage. Cant remember ever having a bike that got 150 per tank...and I would never be without a windshield. Bees in yer bonnet and bugs in yer teeth is not a good thing.

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8/7/05, 8:04am
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>>>I get about 40 miles per gallon...cheap gas...havent tested
>>it
>>>to the max but about 115 per tank of gas.
>>
>>Interesting..I would have thought you would get more out of
>a
>>tank of gas. I know that in cars, they try for the 200+
>miles
>>per tank. So that would mean that you have to fill up twice
>>as much...might not be a bad thing though...a good excuse to
>>let the butt muscles relax!
>>
>>In my old Honda 750, I would try for 150-175 miles per tank.
>>But that was a basic bike...no extras, no windshield.
>>
>The VTX is an 1800cc motorcycle with a trike conversation so
>the combination of the two makes for poorer gas milage. Cant
>remember ever having a bike that got 150 per tank...and I
>would never be without a windshield. Bees in yer bonnet and
>bugs in yer teeth is not a good thing.
>
>

I was once on a Honda 90 coming through the Sepulveda pass and a bee flew into my helmet! He hit and stung my right ear before I could get a gloved hand on his ass. Luckily, I am NOT allergic to bee stings, but it still hurt for a couple of days!

On my old 750, I never got to the point of putting on a windshield or a faring (is that spelled right? fair-ing?), but I would certainly do that if I ever get a nice touring bike. Not only is it good for the things that fly at you, but because it breaks the wind, you don't have to muscle yourself up to the bars.

One day.....one day...............


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>I was once on a Honda 90 coming through the Sepulveda pass and
>a bee flew into my helmet! He hit and stung my right ear
>before I could get a gloved hand on his ass. Luckily, I am
>NOT allergic to bee stings, but it still hurt for a couple of
>days!
>
>On my old 750, I never got to the point of putting on a
>windshield or a faring (is that spelled right? fair-ing?), but
>I would certainly do that if I ever get a nice touring bike.
>Not only is it good for the things that fly at you, but
>because it breaks the wind, you don't have to muscle yourself
>up to the bars.
>
>One day.....one day...............
>
Then again the worst encounter Ive had was with a windshield. A wasp flew down the front of my leather jacket! Needless to say I almost dropped that beautiful pink Harley before I was able to pull over and come to a stop and RIP off my jacket! Not before he'd stung me several times in some very tender places.

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8/11/05, 6:02pm
I have been hit by wasps on several occasions. I also got caught by a hardshell beetle on the forehead above my googles and below my helmet before too.

You really ought to hear the version of this story that the beetle tells.

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>I have been hit by wasps on several occasions. I also got
>caught by a hardshell beetle on the forehead above my googles
>and below my helmet before too.
>
>You really ought to hear the version of this story that the
>beetle tells.


How about the one the WASP told that went down my jacket? Whoa Bill did you see what I saw? Musta been the Rocky Mountains but what was that big picture of a heart with that ribbon round it? LOL

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