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Arizona Pix
10/9/05, 10:33am
They're almost ready... I just gotta work on the descriptions and web pages for them, and that's always the quickest part. Here are a couple teasers (both from Bisbee):

Now to get back to work!

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10/9/05, 11:15am
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Neat old church, Lon. Can't wait to see the pix.

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10/9/05, 9:29pm
>Neat old church, Lon. Can't wait to see the pix.

They're up! Whew... http://www.ldphotography.net/Travel/20050919-22/

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10/9/05, 9:35pm
In Dawson in the Yukon, I believe I read where Wyatt end some of his group had spent some time there during the gold rush. I also crossed paths with Jack London and Robert Service. I have since become a big fan of Robert Service's poetry.

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10/9/05, 10:58pm
>In Dawson in the Yukon, I believe I read where Wyatt end some
>of his group had spent some time there during the gold rush.

Yes, Wyatt lived in Alaska for quite a while.

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Wow..I just sat and stared at that shot of a church for a good couple of minutes. Great shot...great SKY! (Is the sky really that blue?)

Makes ya want to move there to a place with a large front porch and a comfortable chair...

sigh.

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10/10/05, 9:37am
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>>Neat old church, Lon. Can't wait to see the pix.
>
>They're up! Whew...
>http://www.ldphotography.net/Travel/20050919-22/

Cool!!! I'll head over, or I guess in Tombstone lingo, I'll mosey on over and take a look

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Great Pics!

I had no idea there was a Jewish cemetary there.

I agree, I think I'd rather live in Bisbee than Tombstone. It does remind me too of Virginia City.

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10/11/05, 1:20am
>Wow..I just sat and stared at that shot of a church for a good
>couple of minutes. Great shot...great SKY! (Is the sky really
>that blue?)

LOL... You don't really have to go that far from L.A. to see skies like that, either.

>Makes ya want to move there to a place with a large front
>porch and a comfortable chair...
>
>sigh.

You did see my message a couple/few weeks ago about the house for rent in Bisbee, right? It included your front porch (and though the ad said "partially furnished", you might have to supply your own chair) and was only $500/month.

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10/11/05, 1:23am
>I had no idea there was a Jewish cemetary there.

It's kind of hidden, but there is a sign pointing down a gravel pathway that leads to it. I don't think many people bother going to it, though.

>I agree, I think I'd rather live in Bisbee than Tombstone.

Another nice thing about Bisbee is that it's about 10-15 degrees cooler than Tombstone, since it's a couple thousand feet higher in the mountains. Of course, in Arizona's 100+ degree summers, it still felt pretty warm there.

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10/11/05, 11:38am
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>>I had no idea there was a Jewish cemetary there.
>
>It's kind of hidden, but there is a sign pointing down a
>gravel pathway that leads to it. I don't think many people
>bother going to it, though.
>
>>I agree, I think I'd rather live in Bisbee than Tombstone.
>
>Another nice thing about Bisbee is that it's about 10-15
>degrees cooler than Tombstone, since it's a couple thousand
>feet higher in the mountains. Of course, in Arizona's 100+
>degree summers, it still felt pretty warm there.
>

One of my uncles used to have a summer cabin near Flagstaff. It was up in the mountains and got snow in the winter. They loved it.

Are any of the graves marked in the Jewish Cemetary? I noticed that the main monument had stones on top, which is a Jewish tradition.

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10/11/05, 3:47pm
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>>Wow..I just sat and stared at that shot of a church for a
>good
>>couple of minutes. Great shot...great SKY! (Is the sky
>really
>>that blue?)
>
>LOL... You don't really have to go that far from L.A. to see
>skies like that, either.
>
>>Makes ya want to move there to a place with a large front
>>porch and a comfortable chair...
>>
>>sigh.
>
>You did see my message a couple/few weeks ago about the house
>for rent in Bisbee, right? It included your front porch (and
>though the ad said "partially furnished", you might have to
>supply your own chair) and was only $500/month.

Oh yea, I saw that!

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10/11/05, 3:48pm
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>>I had no idea there was a Jewish cemetary there.
>
>It's kind of hidden, but there is a sign pointing down a
>gravel pathway that leads to it. I don't think many people
>bother going to it, though.
>
>>I agree, I think I'd rather live in Bisbee than Tombstone.
>
>Another nice thing about Bisbee is that it's about 10-15
>degrees cooler than Tombstone, since it's a couple thousand
>feet higher in the mountains. Of course, in Arizona's 100+
>degree summers, it still felt pretty warm there.
>

Does it snow there?

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10/12/05, 12:47am
>One of my uncles used to have a summer cabin near Flagstaff.
>It was up in the mountains and got snow in the winter. They
>loved it.

I haven't been that far north in Arizona in almost 30 years. I need to get back up there sometime soon.

>Are any of the graves marked in the Jewish Cemetary? I noticed
>that the main monument had stones on top, which is a Jewish
>tradition.

No, the markers have all been lost to time and the elements. Almost all of the markers in Boothill also disappeared. The ones there now are replacements that were put up when the cemetery was restored. I don't know if they plan to do that to the Jewish Cemetery also.

My own tradition (which I believe is also a Jewish tradition) is to carry a bag of pennies with me and place one on every grave I visit. In some of the ghost towns I visit, I'll find my pennies still there a year or two later when I go back.

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10/12/05, 12:48am
>Does it snow there?

I didn't ask, but I'm sure it does. It snows in Tombstone, and that's a couple thousand feet lower in elevation.

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10/12/05, 9:29am
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>>Are any of the graves marked in the Jewish Cemetary? I
>noticed
>>that the main monument had stones on top, which is a Jewish
>>tradition.
>
>No, the markers have all been lost to time and the elements.
>Almost all of the markers in Boothill also disappeared. The
>ones there now are replacements that were put up when the
>cemetery was restored. I don't know if they plan to do that to
>the Jewish Cemetery also.
>
>My own tradition (which I believe is also a Jewish tradition)
>is to carry a bag of pennies with me and place one on every
>grave I visit. In some of the ghost towns I visit, I'll find
>my pennies still there a year or two later when I go back.
>

Hi, Lon,

Ok on the markers in the Jewish Cemetary. It would be interesting to find out who is buried there and how they contibuted to life in Tombstone and Bisbee. I imagine many, like Sol Star in Deadwood, were merchants.

I still kick myself for missing an exhibition on Jews in the Old West that the Autry Museum hosted a few years ago.

I haven't heard of leaving pennies, just rocks. I imagine its rooted in the same tradition, that of demonstrating the person buried there has not been forgotten.

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10/12/05, 11:02am
>Ok on the markers in the Jewish Cemetary. It would be
>interesting to find out who is buried there and how they
>contibuted to life in Tombstone and Bisbee. I imagine many,
>like Sol Star in Deadwood, were merchants.

I'd be very interested also. But I have a feeling the cemetery restoration committe just doesn't know who is there or they would have already put new markers up like they have done in Boothill. The records must have been lost or just not kept to begin with. Too bad.

>I still kick myself for missing an exhibition on Jews in the
>Old West that the Autry Museum hosted a few years ago.

Y'know, I had heard about that and missed it to. I wonder if they'll ever bring it back.

>I haven't heard of leaving pennies, just rocks. I imagine its
>rooted in the same tradition, that of demonstrating the person
>buried there has not been forgotten.

When I first started hunting down famous people's graves, I kept seeing pennies a lot, so I posted in one of the many cemetery related Yahoo groups I'm subscribed to, asking what they were there for. That's where I was told it was a Jewish tradition, and that they mean exactly what you said: to show the person has not been forgotten. I thought it was a wonderful idea, and I just happened to have a 5-gallon Sparklett's bottle half full of pennies. So... A new personal tradition was started.

A couple years ago when I found Todd Pittman's mother online and we started swapping email, she mentioned in one note about how her husband had gone to Todd's grave a few months earlier and had found two nickels on his marker. Not knowing what they were there for, he cleaned the marker then put them back where he found them, figuring someone put them there for a reason. I replied saying I knew what the reason was, and had a pretty good guess at the date her husband cleaned the grave... I put them there! (Some people rate more than a penny in my book.) I had stopped to visit his grave on my way back from Randsburg where I had gone for my annual birthday trip... It made her day.

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Neat! I never heard of pennies, I guess that's if someone can't find a rock The funny thing is, I've always heard this to be an Israeli and a Sephardic tradition, and not one done by European Jews.

Funny story, and sort of on topic...Janice's late dad served in the Army Air Corps in WWII, flying "The Hump" (over the Himalayas) from China to India. He said he once asked a Chinese man why they left rice and wine on the graves of their loved ones. The man replied, "When your people come up and smell the flowers, ours will eat the rice "

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10/12/05, 12:36pm
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>>Ok on the markers in the Jewish Cemetary. It would be
>>interesting to find out who is buried there and how they
>>contibuted to life in Tombstone and Bisbee. I imagine many,
>>like Sol Star in Deadwood, were merchants.
>
>I'd be very interested also. But I have a feeling the cemetery
>restoration committe just doesn't know who is there or they
>would have already put new markers up like they have done in
>Boothill. The records must have been lost or just not kept to
>begin with. Too bad.

Yep. Well, we know one from Tombstone: Sadie Marcus Though she is not buried there. I bet there are some historians around Tombstone who could come up with some names of Jewish residents from that era.

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10/12/05, 10:08pm
>Neat! I never heard of pennies, I guess that's if someone
>can't find a rock The funny thing is, I've always heard
>this to be an Israeli and a Sephardic tradition, and not one
>done by European Jews.

That may be how it was at first, but the practice has really caught on. Now, lots of non-Jews do it. Actually, I've seen people leave all kinds of things on graves. Flowers, rocks and coins are the most popular, but I've also seen bullets (Wyatt Earp), a bottle of Jack Daniels (Sinatra), toys, stuffed animals and pinwheels (usually kids in ghost town cemeteries), etc. Some look like people just emptied their pockets on the grave, like Jerome Howard (Curly of the Stooges). He had rocks and coins (including a huge NYUK NYUK NYUK that someone spelled out in pennies) plus things like cigarette lighters, plastic tokens, beads and God knows what else. Women like leaving lipstick prints on markers a lot, too. They have to take the face plate off of Marilyn Monroe's crypt every few months to clean it because it gets so gunked up with lipstick. Bugsy Siegel and Truman Capote usually have a few also.

Then there's the lavish decorations I see around Christmas and Easter. Todd Pittman always has a Christmas tree in Decemter.

>Funny story, and sort of on topic...Janice's late dad served
>in the Army Air Corps in WWII, flying "The Hump" (over the
>Himalayas) from China to India. He said he once asked a
>Chinese man why they left rice and wine on the graves of their
>loved ones. The man replied, "When your people come up and
>smell the flowers, ours will eat the rice "

They leave more than rice. The Chinese have picnics on their relatives' graves and leave behind a whole plate of food. They also have a tradition of bringing things made out of paper in the shapes of things the dead person liked, then burning them on the grave. I can't remember what the reason for that is.

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10/12/05, 10:13pm
I just did a search for "Jews in Tombstone Arizona" and found a page that mentions only one grave has been positively located in that Jewish Cemetery. It's a child and they don't know it's name.

Hmmm... Then a little later on the page it says this:

There is NO proof that this "cemetery" was an actual Jewish cemetery. The source cannot locate any documents consecrating the ground as a Jewish cemetery. There are NO known Jewish burials in the area that inhabitants have indicated was a Jewish Cemetery. No records have been discovered that indicates who might be buried there. The town is a historic one and Jews were known to have lived there and died there. Burials, however, usually were conducted at cemeteries out of state or in larger communities.

So was that child buried there Jewish or not? Maybe it was just part of Boothill...

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>When I first started hunting down famous people's graves, I
>kept seeing pennies a lot, so I posted in one of the many
>cemetery related Yahoo groups I'm subscribed to, asking what
>they were there for. That's where I was told it was a Jewish
>tradition, and that they mean exactly what you said: to show
>the person has not been forgotten. I thought it was a
>wonderful idea, and I just happened to have a 5-gallon
>Sparklett's bottle half full of pennies. So... A new personal
>tradition was started.
>
>A couple years ago when I found Todd Pittman's mother online
>and we started swapping email, she mentioned in one note about
>how her husband had gone to Todd's grave a few months earlier
>and had found two nickels on his marker. Not knowing what they
>were there for, he cleaned the marker then put them back where
>he found them, figuring someone put them there for a reason. I
>replied saying I knew what the reason was, and had a pretty
>good guess at the date her husband cleaned the grave... I put
>them there! (Some people rate more than a penny in my book.) I
>had stopped to visit his grave on my way back from Randsburg
>where I had gone for my annual birthday trip... It made her
>day.
>
What a neat story and a great way to show you care. Thanks for sharing Lon.

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Speaking of this....on our last ride to Montana we began to notice...every once in a while...a dead branch stuck in the ground with colored ribbons tied to one branch. When we rode through an Indian buriel ground they said not to disturb items in the trees. That they were sacred prayer rituals.

On one long isolated stretch of highway these branches were showing up every 3 miles or so for miles and miles...and the ribbons were red, white & blue. We wondered if they were Inidan soldiers that had died in Iraq?

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10/13/05, 5:34pm
>Speaking of this....on our last ride to Montana we began to
>notice...every once in a while...a dead branch stuck in the
>ground with colored ribbons tied to one branch. When we rode
>through an Indian buriel ground they said not to disturb items
>in the trees. That they were sacred prayer rituals.

That's interesting. I haven't noticed anything like that. I drove through a lot of Indian territory in Arizona. I wonder if I just wan't paying enough attention...

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10/14/05, 10:01am
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Interesting. I wonder if there is some sort of "certification by a Rabbi that is required for a cemetary to be considered to be Jewish? I'll have to ask my boss about that. If so, I assume there were no rabbis in Tombstone. I imagine that ten lay people would get together to form a minyan and conduct services.

Thanks for doing the research.

-Larry


>I just did a search for "Jews in Tombstone Arizona" and found
>a page that mentions only one grave has been positively
>located in that Jewish Cemetery. It's a child and they don't
>know it's name.
>
>Hmmm... Then a little later on the page it says this:
>
>

There is NO proof that this "cemetery" was an actual
>Jewish cemetery. The source cannot locate any documents
>consecrating the ground as a Jewish cemetery. There are NO
>known Jewish burials in the area that inhabitants have
>indicated was a Jewish Cemetery. No records have been
>discovered that indicates who might be buried there. The town
>is a historic one and Jews were known to have lived there and
>died there. Burials, however, usually were conducted at
>cemeteries out of state or in larger communities.


>
>So was that child buried there Jewish or not? Maybe it was
>just part of Boothill...
>

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10/15/05, 2:27pm
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>>Speaking of this....on our last ride to Montana we began to
>>notice...every once in a while...a dead branch stuck in the
>>ground with colored ribbons tied to one branch. When we rode
>>through an Indian buriel ground they said not to disturb
>items
>>in the trees. That they were sacred prayer rituals.
>
>That's interesting. I haven't noticed anything like that. I
>drove through a lot of Indian territory in Arizona. I wonder
>if I just wan't paying enough attention...

Look next time you go through there. We spotted a couple and then started really paying attention as did the couple we were traveling with.

And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.

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>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.

Cool! Congrats on the new bike.

Does this one have a name?

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10/15/05, 10:55pm
Congrats on the bike Murph. Sounds exciting. I also enjoyed the pennies from heaven Lon.

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10/16/05, 1:43am
>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.

Congrats on the new toy! Leave the penny there for good luck.

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10/16/05, 1:43am
>Cool! Congrats on the new bike.
>
>Does this one have a name?

I've never heard of a bike with an ashtray. I thought she was talking about a car. Then again, most cars don't have ashtrays these days, either.

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>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.
>
>Cool! Congrats on the new bike.
>
>Does this one have a name?
>
>

Its a two seater 4 wheeled roadster and Im still workin on a name.
A hot little goin machine.

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>Congrats on the bike Murph. Sounds exciting. I also enjoyed
>the pennies from heaven Lon.


Thanks but like I said.....my babys got 4 wheels.

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>>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.
>
>Congrats on the new toy! Leave the penny there for good luck.
>


Im gonna. Such a nice touch I thought.....

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>>Cool! Congrats on the new bike.
>>
>>Does this one have a name?
>
>I've never heard of a bike with an ashtray. I thought she was
>talking about a car. Then again, most cars don't have ashtrays
>these days, either.


You were right Lon! Now what I need is all you computer minded folks to come on over and help me figure out how to program the garage door opener. For the life of me I cant.

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10/16/05, 12:29pm
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>Its a two seater 4 wheeled roadster and Im still workin on a
>name.
>A hot little goin machine.

Very cool!!!!!!!! You are going to take me for a ride, right? I won't go on a bike, but the roadster is a must!

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10/16/05, 2:27pm
Holy Cow Murph!!! Those things are sporty. Congrats!!!

I would say I want to ride but I might have to stand on top like the Grape Ape while you drive me around. I don't know that I could compact myself enough to squeeze into one of those...LOL!

They are sporty but I gots to have ground clearance and 4x4. On that note someone unzipped a side panel on my jeep and stole my winch bag with about $250 worth of winching tools in it the other night. Ticked me off. I got to get me a locking trunk in there.

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>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.

WHAT? You bought another new car?

Exactly how BIG IS your garage??

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10/16/05, 7:02pm
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>>>Cool! Congrats on the new bike.
>>>
>>>Does this one have a name?
>>
>>I've never heard of a bike with an ashtray. I thought she
>was
>>talking about a car. Then again, most cars don't have
>ashtrays
>>these days, either.
>
>
>You were right Lon! Now what I need is all you computer minded
>folks to come on over and help me figure out how to program
>the garage door opener. For the life of me I cant.

Will work for food....

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10/16/05, 7:05pm
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>Holy Cow Murph!!! Those things are sporty. Congrats!!!
>
>I would say I want to ride but I might have to stand on top
>like the Grape Ape while you drive me around. I don't know
>that I could compact myself enough to squeeze into one of
>those...LOL!
>
>They are sporty but I gots to have ground clearance and 4x4.
>On that note someone unzipped a side panel on my jeep and
>stole my winch bag with about $250 worth of winching tools in
>it the other night. Ticked me off. I got to get me a locking
>trunk in there.
>
>

When I owned a Jeep, I ended up putting locks on ALL of the storage places. You gotta figure that a cloth door ain't gonna keep many folks out.

And use good locks. I used a POS on my HOOD lock and one day came around the corner to see someone had my hood open!

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Re: Pennies For Heaven
10/16/05, 7:56pm
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>>Its a two seater 4 wheeled roadster and Im still workin on a
>>name.
>>A hot little goin machine.
>
>Very cool!!!!!!!! You are going to take me for a ride, right?
>I won't go on a bike, but the roadster is a must!


Its a deal! Next time we have a GTG. I took a friend of mine for a ride yesterday. Got up to 100...looked over and he was white as a sheet. Hehehehehe

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10/16/05, 8:00pm
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bag? Im so sorry to hear that Robert. Never had a convertable before and that is a problem far as parking it anywhere with the top down. Mr B is 6'3" and pretty good sized and once he squeezed himself into the passenger seat was very comfortable.


>Holy Cow Murph!!! Those things are sporty. Congrats!!!
>
>I would say I want to ride but I might have to stand on top
>like the Grape Ape while you drive me around. I don't know
>that I could compact myself enough to squeeze into one of
>those...LOL!
>
>They are sporty but I gots to have ground clearance and 4x4.
>On that note someone unzipped a side panel on my jeep and
>stole my winch bag with about $250 worth of winching tools in
>it the other night. Ticked me off. I got to get me a locking
>trunk in there.
>
>

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>
>>And speaking of leaving pennies behind. I bought a new BMW
>>roadster yesterday and tucked in the ashtray was a penny.
>
>WHAT? You bought another new car?
>
>Exactly how BIG IS your garage??
>
I traded in my Cobra....sigh...The garage is big enough for my VTX and BMW....LOL Oh and Mr Bs trike.


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>>You were right Lon! Now what I need is all you computer
>minded
>>folks to come on over and help me figure out how to program
>>the garage door opener. For the life of me I cant.
>
>Will work for food....
>
Friday night.....6pm.....where would you like to go to dinner before you make it work?

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10/16/05, 8:06pm
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>>Holy Cow Murph!!! Those things are sporty. Congrats!!!
>>
>>I would say I want to ride but I might have to stand on top
>>like the Grape Ape while you drive me around. I don't know
>>that I could compact myself enough to squeeze into one of
>>those...LOL!
>>
>>They are sporty but I gots to have ground clearance and 4x4.
>
>>On that note someone unzipped a side panel on my jeep and
>>stole my winch bag with about $250 worth of winching tools
>in
>>it the other night. Ticked me off. I got to get me a
>locking
>>trunk in there.
>>
>>
>
>When I owned a Jeep, I ended up putting locks on ALL of the
>storage places. You gotta figure that a cloth door ain't gonna
>keep many folks out.
>
>And use good locks. I used a POS on my HOOD lock and one day
>came around the corner to see someone had my hood open!
>
Speaking of locks and keys...the key on this thing costs $70 to copy it cause its got a computer chip in it. Its the weirdest looking thing you ever saw...a piece of metal with a groove in one side inside of teeth like a key.

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>Its a deal! Next time we have a GTG. I took a friend of
>mine for a ride yesterday. Got up to 100...looked over and he
>was white as a sheet. Hehehehehe

Remember when James Bond had one in Golden Eye. Way cool!
Hmmm, Brown, Murphy Brown

I got to drive a friend's Nissan Xterra today. Very nice and sporty for an SUV. I wouldn't mind having one.

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I have ridden in a friends Mustang before. I think my kneecaps rubbed the skin off my ears before I finally managed to squirm out of that thing. I think I had to come out head first back to the pavement dragging my feets behind.

I had lots of trouble with a patrol car too especially with a cage behind the seat that kept me from adjusting the seat. Couple that dicomfort with a bullet proof vest strapped tight and a weapons belt compressed tight to hold the weight of the gear up over a 12-16 hour shift and you can understand a little how miserable I could get.

I really had to tighten that weapons belt tight as I had no butt to hold it up and my belly would add to the downforce on it which would never be a good thing. If I got in a foot chase with it too loose I could loose it. I think a law enforcement weapons harness would be a good thing as it would save on some of the compression especially to anyone with a similar build to mine.

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10/17/05, 5:49am
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>>>You were right Lon! Now what I need is all you computer
>>minded
>>>folks to come on over and help me figure out how to program
>>>the garage door opener. For the life of me I cant.
>>
>>Will work for food....
>>
>Friday night.....6pm.....where would you like to go to dinner
>before you make it work?

Sounds good, but let's see..the wife is ill and if she is not better I would have to put it off for a bit.

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10/17/05, 5:51am
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>>>Holy Cow Murph!!! Those things are sporty. Congrats!!!
>>>
>>>I would say I want to ride but I might have to stand on top
>>>like the Grape Ape while you drive me around. I don't know
>>>that I could compact myself enough to squeeze into one of
>>>those...LOL!
>>>
>>>They are sporty but I gots to have ground clearance and
>4x4.
>>
>>>On that note someone unzipped a side panel on my jeep and
>>>stole my winch bag with about $250 worth of winching tools
>>in
>>>it the other night. Ticked me off. I got to get me a
>>locking
>>>trunk in there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>When I owned a Jeep, I ended up putting locks on ALL of the
>>storage places. You gotta figure that a cloth door ain't
>gonna
>>keep many folks out.
>>
>>And use good locks. I used a POS on my HOOD lock and one day
>>came around the corner to see someone had my hood open!
>>
>Speaking of locks and keys...the key on this thing costs $70
>to copy it cause its got a computer chip in it. Its the
>weirdest looking thing you ever saw...a piece of metal with a
>groove in one side inside of teeth like a key.
>
>

Almost all of the newer cars have the chip in the key. My daughter's car, the wife's and my truck all have it, and yes, it costs a BUNDLE to get a new key!

I have also read that the chip thing is only so-so when it comes to security.

(I stll have a hidden kill switch...and lojack!)

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10/17/05, 7:57pm
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>>Its a deal! Next time we have a GTG. I took a friend of
>>mine for a ride yesterday. Got up to 100...looked over and
>he
>>was white as a sheet. Hehehehehe
>
>Remember when James Bond had one in Golden Eye. Way cool!
>Hmmm, Brown, Murphy Brown
>
>I got to drive a friend's Nissan Xterra today. Very nice and
>sporty for an SUV. I wouldn't mind having one.
>

Found a button on the BMW that just said SPORT. When you push it the suspension lowers closer to the road and gets much tighter. Woo hoo!
I asked Mr B...does this mean I can sit in a parking lot and push it and release it and have it rock like a gang bangers car? LOL

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10/17/05, 8:01pm
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>I have ridden in a friends Mustang before. I think my
>kneecaps rubbed the skin off my ears before I finally managed
>to squirm out of that thing. I think I had to come out head
>first back to the pavement dragging my feets behind.
>
>I had lots of trouble with a patrol car too especially with a
>cage behind the seat that kept me from adjusting the seat.
>Couple that dicomfort with a bullet proof vest strapped tight
>and a weapons belt compressed tight to hold the weight of the
>gear up over a 12-16 hour shift and you can understand a
>little how miserable I could get.
>
>I really had to tighten that weapons belt tight as I had no
>butt to hold it up and my belly would add to the downforce on
>it which would never be a good thing. If I got in a foot
>chase with it too loose I could loose it. I think a law
>enforcement weapons harness would be a good thing as it would
>save on some of the compression especially to anyone with a
>similar build to mine.


Speaking of being strapped in a patrol vehicle. As a young man Mr B was an LA Count Sheriff and on one of his first pursuits the training officer was flying down city streets at warp 90 and suddenly saw the suspect...slammed on his brakes and jumped out of the car with Mr B right behind him.....or that was the plan. Problem was Mr B forgot to unbuckle his seatbelt and ended up hanging out the car door all tangled up in it. LOL

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10/17/05, 8:04pm
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>>>>You were right Lon! Now what I need is all you computer
>>>minded
>>>>folks to come on over and help me figure out how to
>program
>>>>the garage door opener. For the life of me I cant.
>>>
>>>Will work for food....
>>>
>>Friday night.....6pm.....where would you like to go to
>dinner
>>before you make it work?
>
>Sounds good, but let's see..the wife is ill and if she is not
>better I would have to put it off for a bit.
>
Ut oh....hope its not the flu. Lets play it by ear...If it works it works okay.

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>Almost all of the newer cars have the chip in the key. My
>daughter's car, the wife's and my truck all have it, and yes,
>it costs a BUNDLE to get a new key!
>
>I have also read that the chip thing is only so-so when it
>comes to security.
>
>(I stll have a hidden kill switch...and lojack!)
>
Whoa....Isnt logjack expensive?

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10/18/05, 1:03am
>I asked Mr B...does this mean I can sit in a parking lot and
>push it and release it and have it rock like a gang bangers
>car? LOL

LOL Can you make the car bounce?

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10/18/05, 1:07am
>Whoa....Isnt logjack expensive?

Not at all. I had LoJack in my last car and also put it in the new one. If I remember correctly, it was $395. It's just a one-time charge (which Chevy just tacked onto the price of the car for me when we did the financing). There is no annual fee or anything like that.

For the new car, I got the LoJack Early Warning system. It's a little more expensive than the normal LoJack. They gave me a little fob to hang on my keychain. If the car is ever moved without that fob being within about 10 feet of it, LoJack will call my home phone, cell phone and send me email to tell me the car has moved.

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10/18/05, 7:19am
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>>I asked Mr B...does this mean I can sit in a parking lot and
>>push it and release it and have it rock like a gang bangers
>>car? LOL
>
>LOL Can you make the car bounce?


Only thing it does when in SPORTS mode is to bottom out on speed bumps...but then if I wasnt going warp 50 that might help too. LOL

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10/18/05, 7:22am
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>>Almost all of the newer cars have the chip in the key. My
>>daughter's car, the wife's and my truck all have it, and
>yes,
>>it costs a BUNDLE to get a new key!
>>
>>I have also read that the chip thing is only so-so when it
>>comes to security.
>>
>>(I stll have a hidden kill switch...and lojack!)
>>
>Whoa....Isnt logjack expensive?
>
>

Not really..you get it when you get the car..there is no monthly fee or anything.

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10/18/05, 7:22am
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>>Whoa....Isnt logjack expensive?
>
>Not at all. I had LoJack in my last car and also put it in the
>new one. If I remember correctly, it was $395. It's just a
>one-time charge (which Chevy just tacked onto the price of the
>car for me when we did the financing). There is no annual fee
>or anything like that.
>
>For the new car, I got the LoJack Early Warning system. It's a
>little more expensive than the normal LoJack. They gave me a
>little fob to hang on my keychain. If the car is ever moved
>without that fob being within about 10 feet of it, LoJack will
>call my home phone, cell phone and send me email to tell me
>the car has moved.
>

Hmmmm wish Id had that installed. I bet it lowers your insurance rate as well. BTW the insurance on this spanking new roadster is less than on my 98 Cobra. What does that tell you?

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10/18/05, 8:08am
>Only thing it does when in SPORTS mode is to bottom out on
>speed bumps...but then if I wasnt going warp 50 that might
>help too. LOL

You know this from experience, I gather? lol

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10/18/05, 8:10am
>Hmmmm wish Id had that installed. I bet it lowers your
>insurance rate as well. BTW the insurance on this spanking new
>roadster is less than on my 98 Cobra. What does that tell you?

You can get it installed any time you want. You don't have to get it only when the car is new. I do get a nice discount on my insurance for having it, too.

Is there that much of a difference? I would have thought the insurance would be pretty close to the same for those two cars.

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>>Hmmmm wish Id had that installed. I bet it lowers your
>>insurance rate as well. BTW the insurance on this spanking
>new
>>roadster is less than on my 98 Cobra. What does that tell
>you?
>
>You can get it installed any time you want. You don't have to
>get it only when the car is new. I do get a nice discount on
>my insurance for having it, too.
>
>Is there that much of a difference? I would have thought the
>insurance would be pretty close to the same for those two
>cars.


It was weird about the insurance...My Cobra had 50,000 miles on it but I guess that 5 liter handmade engine 5 speed manual transmission that went 60 in 4 seconds had something to do with it.

The BMW cost 3 times as much.....Hmmmmmmm maybe I shoulda kept what I had?

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10/19/05, 7:23pm
>The BMW cost 3 times as much.....Hmmmmmmm maybe I shoulda kept
>what I had?

Oh, wow! I thought you meant the BMW was cheaper. That's a big difference!

I was surprised that there was so little change when I got the new car. I was driving a 7-year old Cavalier with 150,000 miles on it that I originally bought for $14,000. Now, I have a new Cavalier that cost $20,000. My insurance only went up $150/year. I expected a bigger jump than that.

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>>The BMW cost 3 times as much.....Hmmmmmmm maybe I shoulda
>kept
>>what I had?
>
>Oh, wow! I thought you meant the BMW was cheaper. That's a big
>difference!
>
>I was surprised that there was so little change when I got the
>new car. I was driving a 7-year old Cavalier with 150,000
>miles on it that I originally bought for $14,000. Now, I have
>a new Cavalier that cost $20,000. My insurance only went up
>$150/year. I expected a bigger jump than that.


I was braced for a huge increase and pleasantly surprised when it went down almost $100....The Cobra was an expensive beast!

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10/20/05, 5:37pm
>I was braced for a huge increase and pleasantly surprised when
>it went down almost $100....The Cobra was an expensive beast!
>

Ah! In your previous message, I thought you were saying the BMW's insurance was three times as much. Now I get it... You meant the cost of the car was triple.

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Janice and I were watching "Murphy's Romance" the other day, which was shot in Florence, Arizona. That looks like a neat town too. http://www.town.florence.az.us/index.asp?Type=B_BAS
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10/21/05, 9:00pm
>Janice and I were watching "Murphy's Romance" the other day,
>which was shot in Florence, Arizona. That looks like a neat
>town too.

Sounds pretty neat, and not too far from Bisbee. When I was heading back home I drove from Tucson to Phoenix. I wonder if I went through Florence?

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>>Janice and I were watching "Murphy's Romance" the other day,
>>which was shot in Florence, Arizona. That looks like a neat
>>town too.
>
>Sounds pretty neat, and not too far from Bisbee. When I was
>heading back home I drove from Tucson to Phoenix. I wonder if
>I went through Florence?

It looks like a neat town and I think they depicted life there really well in the film, Murphy's Romance. Janice and I really liked the town dance they would have every Saturday night. If you haven't seen the film, rent it. Its sort of a chick flick, but James Garner and the town make the film for me.

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10/23/05, 5:01am
>It looks like a neat town and I think they depicted life there
>really well in the film, Murphy's Romance. Janice and I really
>liked the town dance they would have every Saturday night. If
>you haven't seen the film, rent it.

I'll look for it. I think I've mentioned before that on weekends when Danny and I work together, we usually watch several movies if things are slow and quiet enough here. We've been on a kick lately, going through all the oldies. This morning we watched Hitchcock's "Notorious". Yesterday it was the 1936 version of "My Man Godfrey" with Carole Lombard. It's about time we tossed in a more modern movie for a change.

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>I'll look for it. I think I've mentioned before that on
>weekends when Danny and I work together, we usually watch
>several movies if things are slow and quiet enough here. We've
>been on a kick lately, going through all the oldies. This
>morning we watched Hitchcock's "Notorious". Yesterday it was
>the 1936 version of "My Man Godfrey" with Carole Lombard. It's
>about time we tossed in a more modern movie for a change.

Neat! Just leave the DVD od Spice Girls at home

Speaking of old flicks, "To Have and Have Not" was on AMC last weekend. Great Bogart film that has the classic Lauren Bacall scene: "You don't have to do anything or say anything. Well maybe just whistle. You know how to whistle don't you Steve? You just put your lips togther and blow."

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10/23/05, 10:08am
>Neat! Just leave the DVD od Spice Girls at home

Too late... I took that one to work about a year ago. We didn't get very far into it before Danny stopped it. Some people just have no taste!

>Speaking of old flicks, "To Have and Have Not" was on AMC last
>weekend. Great Bogart film that has the classic Lauren Bacall
>scene: "You don't have to do anything or say anything. Well
>maybe just whistle. You know how to whistle don't you Steve?
>You just put your lips togther and blow."

Great line! We watched that one a couple months ago during our Bogart run. "Petrified Forest" surprised me. I didn't know Bogie made a movie with Bette Davis. I think that was the first (and so far only) movie with Bette Davis I'd seen.

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>>Neat! Just leave the DVD od Spice Girls at home
>
>Too late... I took that one to work about a year ago. We
>didn't get very far into it before Danny stopped it. Some
>people just have no taste!
>
>>Speaking of old flicks, "To Have and Have Not" was on AMC
>last
>>weekend. Great Bogart film that has the classic Lauren
>Bacall
>>scene: "You don't have to do anything or say anything. Well
>>maybe just whistle. You know how to whistle don't you Steve?
>>You just put your lips togther and blow."
>
>Great line! We watched that one a couple months ago during our
>Bogart run. "Petrified Forest" surprised me. I didn't know
>Bogie made a movie with Bette Davis. I think that was the
>first (and so far only) movie with Bette Davis I'd seen.

Lol, re: Spice Girls. Whatever floats your boat, as they say

Funny thing I remember from film school about "To Have or Have Not". It seemed that Howard Hawkes and Ernest Hemingway were out fishing and Hawkes said, "I bet I can make a hit movie out of even your worst book." Hemingway said, "Ok, let's see what you can do with "To Have And Have Not."

You know Bacall was only 18 in that film!

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10/24/05, 2:57am
>Funny thing I remember from film school about "To Have or Have
>Not". It seemed that Howard Hawkes and Ernest Hemingway were
>out fishing and Hawkes said, "I bet I can make a hit movie out
>of even your worst book." Hemingway said, "Ok, let's see what
>you can do with "To Have And Have Not."

I didn't know that was a Hemingway story. I haven't read very much of his stuff.

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