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Denali (Alaska TR)
10/19/05, 10:13pm (Last Edited: 10/19/05, 10:28pm)

Someone told me that maps that are not made in Alaska call Denali Mt. Mckinnley. They said that Alaskan made maps label it as Denali, an Athabascan term meaning “The Great One”. I prefer to call it Denali. I have also heard that less than 10% of the visitors to the park ever get to see the peak because of the weather and the near constant cloud mass around the mountain. I was rather skeptical about my chances of seeing the peak as rain pelted down on my tent throughout the night.

As we got our car pass to drive into Denali on Sunday morning rain continued to fall. The skies were overcast and rain persisted throughout the day. As I have previously stated Denali was a photography challenge as my telephoto lense was woefully inadequate for the vastness of the park and the lighting and my camera‘s metering did not always agree in the rainy overcast conditions. All was not bad as I did bring home some good images and many wonderful memories

Denali was such an experience. We were so incredibly lucky to have won a vehicle pass to drive in. We left just before sun-up inbound. The ranger at the station giving an orientation asked us, “How far do you plan to go in? My brother, always the character, answered, “You see that gas gauge right there? When it gets to ½ a tank we will turn around and come back.” “Gotcha!” The ranger replied.

We were giddy with anticipation in spite of the wet weather. The park reminded me of a beautiful woman veiled in lingerie as the cloud cover seemed to compliment and tease simultaneously as it veiled and revealed various aspects of the terrain. The visual could take your breath while at the same time leave you yearning to see more of what was concealed beyond the veil of clouds.

The park’s fauna was as amazing as the scenery. I quickly found how inadequate my telephoto capabilities were as I watched with envy some of the other photographers who had 500mm and 600mm tripod mounted telephoto lenses. Glassing with binos from the slopes my brother pointed out a large bull moose following a cow and a calf. The cow moose did not share his amorous mood. Suddenly his nose went up into the air as he caught a scent. He quickly turned and trotted off across the valley alternately trotting, running and walking as he never veered from his path. We moved back to the car and drove on to another view point ahead of his line of travel. We glassed again as he continued to trek never waivering for perhaps a mile or more.

I was glassing ahead of his line of travel as we already knew what must be there. Suddenly I noticed a cow moose concealed in a willow patch. As I watched two other moose appeared. The other two was another cow and calf combination. The bull moose slowed on his approach. He was massive with antlers so enormous that they resembled a rocking chair strapped to his head. This single cow showed very little interest in him as well. She seemed to be rather annoyed with his presence. As Wilt Chamberlain would no doubt say, “No play for Mr. Gray.” We finally decided to leave the quad of moose and move on further into the park.

This moose was just too distant for my telephoto

Dall Sheep


Mama Grizzly and cubs


Denali Ducks


Trumpeter Swans

A couple of more grizzly. While we were watching these two grub upslope the uphill grizzly dislodged a large rock that rolled downhill striking the other bear. It was not injurious but it was rather comical.


Ptarmigan


Three more grizzly

There is a statistic that only about 10% of the visitors to Denali National Park ever get to see the peak of Denali revealed because of the ever present weather systems that seem to perpetually shroud the peak. Through out my visit the seductive princess teased and tormented me with her playful tease, revealing only what she wanted me to see and leaving the rest for the imagination. Finally after the sun had settled behind the western horizon the temptress revealed herself to me with her figure seductively bathed in that Alaskan twilight. I was lucky enough to capture the moment and share it here as follows.

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10/19/05, 10:27pm
Nice sheep picture!

You need to get yourself an image editing program so you can do a little color correcting and sharpening. That would make your pictures stand out a little better.

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10/19/05, 10:29pm
Thanks. I am still editing so the post may change a little. Which program would you recommend. I am about to invest in one soon.

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10/19/05, 10:42pm
>Which program would you recommend. I am about to invest in
>one soon.

Well, I use Adobe Photoshop, but I wouldn't recommend that to you at this stage. It has an enormously high learning curve and would just make you more frustrated than anything else. Not to mention it's pretty damn expensive (~$650).

Adobe's Photoshop Elements might be a good first choice. It's a "lite" version of Photoshop with many of the same photo editing capabilities, and a much more affordable price tag (~$100). JASC's Paint Shop Pro is another popular choice in the same price range, as is Rob's favorite, which I can't remember right now (I'm sure he'll chime in here).

There's also Gimp. It's an open source program (ie: free), that's similar to Photoshop. The only drawbacks there are 1) since it tries to be Photoshop, it also has a very big learning curve, and 2) since it's open source there's very little documentation, which makes the learning curve even bigger. I definitely wouldn't recommend Gimp to you, unless you like to be confused...

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Re: Denali (Alaska TR)
10/20/05, 8:22am (Last Edited: 10/20/05, 8:25am)
graphic
Great TR and pics

Rob, if you do get Photoshop, please don't go overboard. I see so many photographers who make their photographs so sharp and alter the color so much that they don't look real anymore. I think it's a real shame that photography has gone that way... I think the art of photography is fast becoming a lost one. And I admire greatly the photographers who don't have to alter their photographs...

Anyway, for what it's worth, I've been to Denali and I can concur that it is a challenge to photograph and I think you did a great job

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10/20/05, 5:48pm
>Rob, if you do get Photoshop, please don't go overboard. I
>see so many photographers who make their photographs so sharp
>and alter the color so much that they don't look real anymore.

Sharpness is a very intricate procedure, and you're right that many people don't do it right. I have a set of very involved scripts to run sharpening in three phases, to control precisely which parts of an image get sharpened and in small subtle amounts. Surfaces shouldn't be sharpened nearly as much as edges. Also, most digital cameras perform a little sharpening in camera (mine don't because I shoot in RAW mode). These scripts I have are so precise that they take a long time to run, so I only use them on the "money" shots: when I'm going to be making a print or to put in the new "Fine Art" section of my web site that I'm currently working on. For my travel and hiking pictures, I want to get the galleries online as quick as possible, so I use FocalBlade. That gives me some control, but nowhere near as much as my scripts. It's a lot faster, though.

I like some creative manipulation, though. There's an Irish woman on the Canon forum who lately has been turning her photos into images that look like oil or watercolor paintings. She's been getting very good at it.

I'm sick and tired of the selective coloring craze, though. That's where someone turns a picture into B&W except for one certain part (like the flowers in a shot of a bride). That is so incredibly overdone...

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Re: Denali (Alaska TR)
10/20/05, 9:29pm (Last Edited: 10/20/05, 9:34pm)
I would be reluctant to do much with photoshop but it does seem to be a popular tool. I would like to use it to add watermarks...to do some cropping and to perhaps sharpen or slightly alter color/white balance. None of the shots I have ever posted here have been altered other than perhaps some cropping. Everything else is as it was.

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10/20/05, 9:33pm
>Nice sheep picture!
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Thanks. I took about twelve shots of that sheep and because of the lighting and my free hand photography and both me and the subject moving everone blurred including this one. This one was the only servicable shot though and I was reluctant to add it but it will suffice. It was also the best pose that it made during th sequence. I thought I had several good shots judging from my camera display but when I got them on the computer I was not happy with them.

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10/20/05, 9:35pm
Lon, What type of storage media do you use for your images. How do you prevent image degredation with digital over time?

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10/20/05, 9:38pm
I do notice that the darkness and lightness varies greatly from computer to computer. I was looking at these on my work computer and they seemed much darker(too dark on some images) on that computer and the sizing seemed to differ as the images were slightly larger than the screen. That is not the case with my home computer.

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10/21/05, 4:37am
>I thought I had several good shots
>judging from my camera display but when I got them on the
>computer I was not happy with them.

I've been there many times, too. I don't even bother looking at the camera's LCD any more.

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10/21/05, 4:50am
>Lon, What type of storage media do you use for your images.
>How do you prevent image degredation with digital over time?

My storage methods are a bit redundant. When I copy the cards to the computer, I put the original files in three places: 1) my working directory, 2) a temporary storage directory on the C: drive, and 3) a temporary storage directory on a 160Gb external USB drive that's always plugged in. When I have a multiple of 4Gb in those temporary folders (usually 8 or 12Gb), I'll use Archive Creator ( http://www.pictureflow.com/ ) to write them out to DVD-R. I do that twice, making two archive copies. Then, I copy the original files one more time, from the temp storage directories to another external USB hard drive that is then unplugged and stored in a closet.

I've had too many hard drives and CD's go bad to trust any one media type or to have only one copy. I haven't had a DVD go bad yet, but I'm sure that's only a matter of time.

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10/21/05, 5:04am
>I do notice that the darkness and lightness varies greatly
>from computer to computer. I was looking at these on my work
>computer and they seemed much darker(too dark on some images)
>on that computer and the sizing seemed to differ as the images
>were slightly larger than the screen. That is not the case
>with my home computer.

Yes, monitors can vary a lot. I haven't calibrated my monitor at home yet, but I have fine tuned it as much as possible with Adobe's Gamma correction program, so I know pictures displayed on it are as close to true as I can get right now. That's the only monitor I trust when evaluating my pics. Unfortunately, I can't control how accurately other people see my pictures, because I can't adjust their monitor settings.

BTW, for the most accurate color display, your monitor's color temperature should be set to 6500K (Kelvins). The default is usually 5000K. When you first switch from 5000 to 6500, things will look too yellow. That's just because you're used to seeing things wrong and your eyes and mind are having difficulty adjusting. After about a week or so, it won't look wrong to you any more.

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10/21/05, 7:12am
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>Yes, monitors can vary a lot. I haven't calibrated my monitor
>at home yet, but I have fine tuned it as much as possible with
>Adobe's Gamma correction program, so I know pictures displayed
>on it are as close to true as I can get right now. That's the
>only monitor I trust when evaluating my pics. Unfortunately, I
>can't control how accurately other people see my pictures,
>because I can't adjust their monitor settings.
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>BTW, for the most accurate color display, your monitor's color
>temperature should be set to 6500K (Kelvins). The default is
>usually 5000K. When you first switch from 5000 to 6500, things
>will look too yellow. That's just because you're used to
>seeing things wrong and your eyes and mind are having
>difficulty adjusting. After about a week or so, it won't look
>wrong to you any more.
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HOLD IT! How do I calibrate my monitor? How do I get to where I can set the temp at 6500K? This may sound silly but Im shopping for 5 large area rugs and color is VERY important.

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10/21/05, 4:00pm
>HOLD IT! How do I calibrate my monitor? How do I get to where
>I can set the temp at 6500K? This may sound silly but Im
>shopping for 5 large area rugs and color is VERY important.

To calibrate your monitor, you need a Spyder (http://www.colorvision.com/index.html). That isn't exactly cheap, though. If you install Adobe Photoshop, it puts something called "Adobe Gamma" in your Control Panel, which you can use to kind of calibrate things, but that isn't very precise.

As for the monitor's color temperature, that's in your monitor's menu somewhere. On mine, it's in the "Viewmatch Color" menu.

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10/22/05, 6:16am
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>>HOLD IT! How do I calibrate my monitor? How do I get to
>where
>>I can set the temp at 6500K? This may sound silly but Im
>>shopping for 5 large area rugs and color is VERY important.
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>To calibrate your monitor, you need a Spyder
>(http://www.colorvision.com/index.html). That isn't exactly
>cheap, though. If you install Adobe Photoshop, it puts
>something called "Adobe Gamma" in your Control Panel, which
>you can use to kind of calibrate things, but that isn't very
>precise.
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>As for the monitor's color temperature, that's in your
>monitor's menu somewhere. On mine, it's in the "Viewmatch
>Color" menu.


Thanks Thomas......Ive copied your info and will take a look see.

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10/22/05, 10:06am
>Thanks Thomas......Ive copied your info and will take a look
>see.

By the way, if you're using an LCD monitor, it probably won't have that color temperature option. LCD's work a bit differently. I need to check the ones at work and see what the menus on those look like...

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