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On the road again, yet again
3/3/06, 4:11pm
I just decided that Ashley needs to see the Grand Canyon. We'll be just arriving back home from that trip two weeks from today...

Three weeks after that, I'll be in San Francisco (without Ashley).

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3/3/06, 9:24pm
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>I just decided that Ashley needs to see the Grand Canyon.
>We'll be just arriving back home from that trip two weeks from
>today...
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>Three weeks after that, I'll be in San Francisco (without
>Ashley).
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Man, you are a Travelling Man

There should be snow at the Canyon, I would expect.

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3/3/06, 9:45pm
>There should be snow at the Canyon, I would expect.

I would think so. Hopefully not too much, though. Maybe something like at Tahoe or Yosemite last week.

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3/4/06, 10:30am
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>>There should be snow at the Canyon, I would expect.
>
>I would think so. Hopefully not too much, though. Maybe
>something like at Tahoe or Yosemite last week.

I'm not sure. I wouldn't think it would be more snow though. Best to check with the Weather Service or the Az Highway Patrol.

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3/4/06, 10:43am
>>I would think so. Hopefully not too much, though. Maybe
>>something like at Tahoe or Yosemite last week.
>
>I'm not sure. I wouldn't think it would be more snow though.
>Best to check with the Weather Service or the Az Highway
>Patrol.

I'm chasing you all over the board today...

The south rim is 7,000'. I was above 8,000' at one point heading into Yosemite, and there wasn't much snow there. There was more in the valley where it's more protected from the sun. So, yeah... I don't really expect to see much at the Grand Canyon. We'll see. I have the DOT road conditions phone numbers and web sites in my cell phone for Nevada and California. I need to look for Arizona's.

I was looking at the route I'll be taking to get to Flagstaff and realized I'll be driving right past Laughlin on the way there. I think I'll stop off at Oatman, AZ to see how the burros are doing. I also need to drop by a "One Club" casino and run a few bucks through a video poker machine. My points expire after 12 or 18 months (I forget which) if I haven't gambled, and my last trip to Vegas was last May. I may be cutting it close, and I have too many points accrued to lose.

There's the Edgewater and Colorado Belle in Laughlin, but I wasn't too impressed by either of those. I might just swing through Vegas on the way home... There, I can choose between Slots A Fun, Circus Circus, Excalibur, Luxor, Mandalay Bay and Monte Carlo. Much better choices!

Ashley is going to see a lot of new territory on this trip!

Hmmm... Now that I think of it, I should book a Motel 6 or Super 8 in Vegas for one more night so I can take her to Valley of Fire and Red Rock Canyon. Of course, that would require taking a day off work. Decisions, decisions...

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3/4/06, 11:11am
>Hmmm... Now that I think of it, I should book a Motel 6 or
>Super 8 in Vegas for one more night so I can take her to
>Valley of Fire and Red Rock Canyon.

Scratch that idea! Even Super 8 wants $91 for that night. The only time I paid anywhere near that much was for an unscheduled night at Excalibur when I burned up the clutch in my car and had to add a day to my stay on that trip while Ellen went to the shop. Hell, Luxor was cheaper on Christmas Eve 2003!

Something big must be going on in town. Ain't no way I'd even consider paying $346 for a room at the Frontier!

I guess I'll just piss away a couple bucks at the Colorado Belle to keep my account active.

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3/4/06, 12:35pm
My younger brother and I are tentatively planning a Grand Canyon whitewater rafting trip perhaps for 2007-2008. Whenever I can get him interested in something that is up my alley I have to move on it. I want to do the full length trip when I go.

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3/4/06, 2:29pm
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Probably a big convention..or more likely, its spring break for many colleges right now. Oooo Laughlin should be fun

Matt will be home next Friday for spring break.

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3/5/06, 2:50am
>My younger brother and I are tentatively planning a Grand
>Canyon whitewater rafting trip perhaps for 2007-2008.

Sounds like it'll be an interesting trip. I've never gone white water rafting. There are places to do that in Northern California around the gold towns that I visit all the time. The American River next to Coloma is a popular place for that.

My purpose for this Grand Canyon trip is to scount around the area. I want to go back again later this spring or next fall (before or after the summer heat) and hike to the canyon floor and back up.

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3/5/06, 2:58am
>Probably a big convention..or more likely, its spring break
>for many colleges right now.

Whatever it is, it's apparently a yearly thing. I realized yesterday evening that this is the exact same dates as my Death Valley trip last year. That was supposed to be a Vegas trip until I hit the same roadblock trying to find a room. I hadn't thought about it being Spring Break. I guess that might make sense. Kind of expensive for college kids, but then they usually pack a dozen or more into a room, don't they?

>Oooo Laughlin should be fun

I don't think I would ever put the words "Laughlin" and "fun" in the same sentence. I thought it was the most boring place I'd ever visited when I was there last year. The only reason I'm even considering stopping is because it's convenient and I need to put some activity on the club card.

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3/5/06, 8:18pm
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>I just decided that Ashley needs to see the Grand Canyon.
>We'll be just arriving back home from that trip two weeks from
>today...
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>Three weeks after that, I'll be in San Francisco (without
>Ashley).
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Tough life! Are you simi retired or what?

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3/6/06, 3:01am
>Tough life! Are you simi retired or what?

Ha! I wish...

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3/13/06, 11:33am
This could prove to be an interesting trip... We leave first thing tomorrow morning as soon as I get off work. With the recent storms, I wonder how everything will pan out. Flagstaff is above 7,000', so they got a pretty good amount of snow. Will I be able to make it there and to the Grand Canyon? Who knows. The chains are packed just in case.

Now they're predicting another storm for Friday, the day I'll be heading home. If that brings snow and ice, it might prevent be from getting back home. Somehow that part doesn't worry me as much. "You mean I can't get back in time to return to work? Well, gosh darn it all... I'll just have to stay here, then."

I've made sure the big ski gloves (I can't find my ski mittens! I'd rather have those!) and Ashley's fleece jacket are packed for this. I'll leave the snowshoes behind since they're bulky and I don't have room for them in the trunk with everything else, and no hikes are planned. I'll find room for the instep crampons though, just in case. They're small and don't take up too much space. I sure wish I'd thought of packing them last month!

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3/13/06, 7:58pm
Have a safe trip. I'm jealous

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3/14/06, 2:19am
>Have a safe trip. I'm jealous

Thanks, I'll try.

I've been monitoring the Arizona highway traffic cams and I don't think I'll have any problems. There is a lot of snow on the sides of the road, but the roadway itself looks clear enough. I'll find out for sure soon enough.

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3/14/06, 5:23am
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>This could prove to be an interesting trip... We leave first
>thing tomorrow morning as soon as I get off work. With the
>recent storms, I wonder how everything will pan out. Flagstaff
>is above 7,000', so they got a pretty good amount of snow.
>Will I be able to make it there and to the Grand Canyon? Who
>knows. The chains are packed just in case.
>
>Now they're predicting another storm for Friday, the day I'll
>be heading home. If that brings snow and ice, it might prevent
>be from getting back home. Somehow that part doesn't worry me
>as much. "You mean I can't get back in time to return to work?
>Well, gosh darn it all... I'll just have to stay here, then."
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>I've made sure the big ski gloves (I can't find my ski
>mittens! I'd rather have those!) and Ashley's fleece jacket
>are packed for this. I'll leave the snowshoes behind since
>they're bulky and I don't have room for them in the trunk with
>everything else, and no hikes are planned. I'll find room for
>the instep crampons though, just in case. They're small and
>don't take up too much space. I sure wish I'd thought of
>packing them last month!
>

Do you keep a "camping list" of stuff so you don't forget things, or do you just wing it?

(Personally, I keep a list that I have had now for years and years. I find that if I don't look at it, I forget simple things like a belt or a comb or sun hat.)


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Be safe and have a wonderful time.

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3/14/06, 7:37pm
>Do you keep a "camping list" of stuff so you don't forget
>things, or do you just wing it?

I learned a long time ago to develop a system. I have a program for my Palm Pilot called "Handy Shopper". It's meant mainly for creating grocery shopping lists, but you can use it to create a check list for really any situation. I have a pretty elaborate one on there, broken down into many different categories (Ashley, Clothing, Do Before Leaving, Camera, Computer, etc.) that I've developed over time.

Not everything on that list applies to every trip, of course, so a few days before I'm supposed to leave, I go through and check off everything that I don't need to worry about. Then, for the remaining days before departure I go through all of the categories many times, checking the items off as I get them done/packed/whatever. When the trip is over and I get back home, I reset the list so it's ready to use again next time.

If I remember correctly, this program cost me $5. Best money I ever spent!

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3/14/06, 7:44pm
>Be safe and have a wonderful time.

That's my motto!

I expected more snow here in Flagstaff, but it isn't bad at all. The white stuff is all over the place, but not enough to be a problem. I'll see what the conditions are like at the Grand Canyon's south rim soon.

I'm really in a quandary now, though... I'm very tempted to change my ultimate retirement plans. I have a funny feeling I'm falling in love with Flagstaff. I hope Bisbee won't feel too slighted if it becomes a second choice. lol (Hey, at least they're both in the same state! Just at polar opposite ends... )

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3/15/06, 10:50am
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Flagstaff's a liitle larger town, I think, right? I think I'd like that better too.

My aunt and uncle used to own a summer cabin in Sedona and loved it.

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3/15/06, 5:26pm
>Flagstaff's a liitle larger town, I think, right? I think I'd
>like that better too.

No, Flagstaff is a lot larger! It has the same small town feel, though. According to the results from a little Googling:

Bisbee: 5,566' in elevation, 4.8 square miles, 6,044 people (June, 2004)

Flagstaff: 6,903', 63.6 square miles, 57,038 people (June, 2004)

That means Flagstaff is just a little more than half the size of Burbank. It sure doesn't look that big from where I'm sitting! Another Arizona town I really liked was Prescott. That one is smaller than Flagstaff, but it appeared much larger.

Prescott: 5,386', 37.1 square miles, 38,930 people (June, 2004)

Maybe it's the elevation I like about Flagstaff...

>My aunt and uncle used to own a summer cabin in Sedona and
>loved it.

I have an online friend in Sedona. I have an open invitation to drop by there any time I want, but I don't know if I'll have a chance on this trip. We'll see...

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3/15/06, 5:34pm
This morning, Ashley and I left very early, heading west to Williams, a very tiny town at the southern end of Highway 64, the main route into the south entrance of Grand Canyon. Before heading to the Canyon, we first looked for the Williams Cemetery (because of some recent discussion on one of the mailing lists I'm on). We found it easily because the town is so small. Supposedly it's a very bleak, depressing looking place in the summer because there is no grass. Just dirt. This morning it looked absolutely beautiful. Must have had something to do with the two feet of snow covering it.

We then headed up to the Canyon. It was Ashley's first time there, and my second (last time was 27.5 years ago!). Ashley was more concerned about getting attention from everyone else than admiring the scenery:

It was really cold there in the morning, and the snow and ice was everywhere. It warmed up enough to unzip my coat by the afternoon, though. We checked out the village, gift shops (well, I did, not Ashley), and all of the vista points and a good section of the South Rim Trail. After the Desert View vista point, we headed out the east entrance and headed "home", arriving back at the motel at a little after 5pm, Arizona time.

I was shocked when we got back here! When we arrived late last evening, there was snow everywhere. The roads this morning were very icy, too. In fact, there was a pretty bad accident about a block from my motel room because a car or two went sliding. As I headed west on Highway 40, there were a couple spots where I could feel myself slightly losing control for a second or two. But, when we got back "home", the snow was all gone! All that's left is a small patch here and there, and the big piles left at the street corners by the snow plows. Everything else has already melted. I didn't even think it felt that warm...

They say a new storm is rolling in this weekend and more snow is expected. I wonder how long that will last. At least I got her soon enough to see it before this week's snow melted.

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3/15/06, 6:06pm
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I've heard good things about Flagstaff. I especially like the change in seasons it gets and the fact its somewhat woodsy.

I had no idea it had about the same population as Burbank.

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3/15/06, 7:49pm
>I had no idea it had about the same population as Burbank.

You missed a word... Half! It has about half the population of Burbank.

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3/15/06, 9:55pm
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>>I had no idea it had about the same population as Burbank.
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>You missed a word... Half! It has about half the
>population of Burbank.

OOOo, sorry. How's Ashley like the snow?

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3/16/06, 5:38am
>How's Ashley like the snow?

She loves it! She gets so excited when she hops out of the car and sees all that white stuff...

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>>How's Ashley like the snow?
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>She loves it! She gets so excited when she hops out of the car
>and sees all that white stuff...
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That's good! Sophie hated it.

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3/16/06, 5:50pm
Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Such a fine sight to see.

Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford? She's nowhere around that I can see...

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3/16/06, 6:16pm
Three National Parks in three weeks. The NP pass I picked up last month in Yosemite has already paid for itself!

We started out this morning at the Meteor Crater (http://www.meteorcrater.com/), east of Flagstaff. It reminded me of the volcanic Ubehebe Crater in Death Valley. Because of the ignorance of the U.S. Gummint, the misnamed Meteor Crater (see below) is not a National Park, but is actually privately owned, in part by the 300,000 acre cattle ranch that surrounds it. So, I had to pony up the $15 entrance fee rather than wave my NP pass. It was well worth the visit, despite the fact that "pets are not allowed" (a phrase I am becoming increasingly phucking tired of seeing/hearing) as the sign at the ticket booth said. Ashley had to stay in the car for a couple hours, something I'm sure she's getting very tired of doing.

About the name: A meteor is a hunk of junk in space. Once it enters Earth's atmosphere it is a meteorite...

After the crater, we headed even further east to the Petrified Forest. I last visited there 27.5 years ago (same trip as my previous visit to the Grand Canyon). For some reason, I have always had a memory of a separate visit during that trip in the 70's to something called "The Painted Desert". Turns out, the Painted Desert is part of Petrified Forest National Park.

Being a National Park, Ashley was welcome on the paved trails there and most of them are paved. She got to spend a lot of time out of the car and got some well needed exercise. She's sleeping it off now, and probably ready to head home tomorrow.

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3/16/06, 7:35pm (Last Edited: 3/16/06, 7:44pm)
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>Be safe and have a wonderful time.
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>That's my motto!
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>I expected more snow here in Flagstaff, but it isn't bad at
>all. The white stuff is all over the place, but not enough to
>be a problem. I'll see what the conditions are like at the
>Grand Canyon's south rim soon.
>
>I'm really in a quandary now, though... I'm very tempted to
>change my ultimate retirement plans. I have a funny feeling
>I'm falling in love with Flagstaff. I hope Bisbee won't feel
>too slighted if it becomes a second choice. lol (Hey, at least
>they're both in the same state! Just at polar opposite ends...
> )

I think theres a slight difference in population as well isnt there? Personally Id go for Flagstaff just because its a bigger town.

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3/16/06, 7:42pm
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>Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Such a fine sight to
>see.
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>Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford? She's nowhere
>around that I can see...
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Arent the words........Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford slowin down to take a look at me?

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3/16/06, 9:39pm
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>>Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Such a fine sight
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>>see.
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>>Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford? She's
>nowhere
>>around that I can see...
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>Arent the words........Where's the girl, my Lord, in the
>flat-bed Ford slowin down to take a look at me?

I think its" It's a girl, my lord in a flat bed Ford slowin' down to take a look at me."

But I think Lon was funnin us

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>Arent the words........Where's the girl, my Lord, in the
>flat-bed Ford slowin down to take a look at me?

What Larry said...

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3/17/06, 5:24am (Last Edited: 3/17/06, 5:26am)
graphic
>Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Such a fine sight to
>see.
>


>
>Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford? She's nowhere
>around that I can see...
>

Cute!!

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murphy brown  
Re: Taking it easy...
3/17/06, 4:42pm (Last Edited: 3/17/06, 4:43pm)
graphic
>>Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Such a fine sight
>to
>>see.
>>
>>


>>
>>Where's the girl, my Lord, in the flat-bed Ford? She's
>nowhere
>>around that I can see...
>>
>
>Arent the words........Where's the girl, my Lord, in the
>flat-bed Ford slowin down to take a look at me?
>
>I think its" It's a girl, my lord in a flat bed Ford slowin'
>down to take a look at me."
>
>But I think Lon was funnin us

See...we all know that song....a great one. Cute Lonburger.

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3/17/06, 10:57pm
It sucks to be home. Well, except for all the attention I get from the kitties, that is...

I called in "sick" early this morning so I could take my time on the way home instead of rushing so I could get home in time to go to work and be exhausted all night.

Ashley and I took a small detour near the Arizona border to visit Lake Havasu City and see London Bridge. I'd been wanting to do that for a long time now. The bridge was almost as impressive as that blonde in the skimpy white bikini with the flower pattern, who owned the white Mustang parked next to my Ellen...

Then, we followed Route 66 (we spent a LOT of time on Route 66 during this trip, by the way) to Oatman, AZ. The burros were out in force today! They were all over, as were the town's visitor's. The place was crowded! We only spent a couple hours there, but I was at least able to get to the upstairs area of the Oatman Hotel. Last time I was there, the second floor was closed for renovations. This time I was able to get up there and see the room where Clark Gable and Carole Lombard spent their honeymoon and several return visits. Things sure were different back then...

After a quick stop in Laughlin to piss away a few bucks to keep my One Club membership active, we headed through a very heavy rainstorm (the Rain-X is still fighting it valiantly) toward home.

Now, to get to work on the pix. No... I think I'll do that tomorrow. Now, to get some sleep! I think I got a lot of really great shots from this trip, but I'm too tired to go through them right now.

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3/18/06, 12:57pm
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>Ashley and I took a small detour near the Arizona border to
>visit Lake Havasu City and see London Bridge. I'd been wanting
>to do that for a long time now. The bridge was almost as
>impressive as that blonde in the skimpy white bikini with the
>flower pattern, who owned the white Mustang parked next to my
>Ellen...

So? Where's the picture???? Of the bridge that is!

Glad to hear you and Ashley are home safe and sound.

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Welcome back Lon, looks like an awesome time. I was groovin' to the Eagles last night and I thought about your trip. My brother and I have tentative plans to raft the length of the Grand Canyon in the summer of 2008.

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3/19/06, 2:47am
>So? Where's the picture???? Of the bridge that is!

On my hard drive, waiting for me to get to it. I started working on the pictures yesterday. I still have quite a ways to go... There are several pictures of the bridge. Unfortunately, I didn't have the nerve to take one of the bikini clad babe...

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3/19/06, 2:50am
>My
>brother and I have tentative plans to raft the length of the
>Grand Canyon in the summer of 2008.

You do know how hot it gets down there in the summer, right? It sounds like an interesting trip, but if it were me, I'd be looking at spring or fall.

I couldn't really see the river from most of the vantage points along the south rim until I got near the eastern entrance. That river is a long way down there!

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Re: On the road again, yet again
3/25/06, 5:31am
The pictures from last week's trip are online. http://www.ldphotography.net/Travel/20060314-17/

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3/25/06, 7:09am (Last Edited: 3/25/06, 8:26am)
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>The pictures from last week's trip are online.
>http://www.ldphotography.net/Travel/20060314-17/

As I look at your pics, I am reminded of when I too was a kid and seeing the Grand Canyon.

I also remember when you could drive that road along the rim that now only buses..with HARD PLASTIC SEATS get to go!

What is so odd too is that it is hard to capture the size of the thing. It is just HUGE!

As a side note, I was reading that they are thinking about building a "cantilevered" balcony over a section of the canyon that is SEE THROUGH. Hrmmmm


You would probably LOVE to see Glen Canyon, which is upstream from there. Now they call it "Lake Powell". I think you might find ENDLESS pic opportunites there. Houseboating anyone?


Afterthought-Hey Lon, are you using a tripod for those Grand Canyon shots, or are you hand holding? (I am talking about the "vista" shots.)

Did you use any "special" lens?


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3/25/06, 9:49am
>I also remember when you could drive that road along the rim
>that now only buses..with HARD PLASTIC SEATS get to go!

Where is that? I only saw one place that was buses only, but that was just for one vantage point, not a road. I drove all the way around the rim from the south entrance to the east entrance. Of course, I didn't go to the north rim. That's closed during the winter. Is that where this was?

>What is so odd too is that it is hard to capture the size of
>the thing. It is just HUGE!

Yes, I had no expectations of capturing it properly on camera going in. I knew I wouldn't be able to, so I didn't set myself up for a disappointment. It's definitely something you have to see in person to really understand the scope of it.

>As a side note, I was reading that they are thinking about
>building a "cantilevered" balcony over a section of the canyon
>that is SEE THROUGH. Hrmmmm

Interesting. I don't know if that's something I'd be too willing to go out on. That lower platform at the Meteor Crater was kind of giving me the willies, and that didn't have a see-through floor. It just felt rickety, and stuck way out over the rim of the crater.

>You would probably LOVE to see Glen Canyon, which is upstream
>from there. Now they call it "Lake Powell".

I hadn't heard of that. I'll have to keep it in mind for next time I'm in that area.

>Afterthought-Hey Lon, are you using a tripod for those Grand
>Canyon shots, or are you hand holding? (I am talking about the
>"vista" shots.)

I have three tripods and a monopod in the trunk with me at all times. None made it out of the trunk on this trip, though. All pictures were handheld. My shutter speeds were high enough that I didn't need help.

>Did you use any "special" lens?

Yes. All four of my most used lenses are from Canon's L (as in Luxury) series, which is the absolute best they make. Naturally, they're very expensive, too. I only have one non-L lens. That one hasn't made it out of the camera bag in about a year.

My two most often used lenses are:
24-70 f/2.8L USM -- http://tinyurl.com/dabsg
and
17-40 f/4L USM -- http://tinyurl.com/9qbco

My favorite one is a special purpose lens, so it doesn't get used as much as the other two, even though it's my favorite:
100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS USM -- http://tinyurl.com/a8uf3

The fourth L lens in my aresenal:
70-200 f/4L USM -- http://tinyurl.com/b9mea

The only non-L lens in my bag:
50 f/2.5 Compact Macro -- http://tinyurl.com/ag59h

You should see the lenses on my B&H Photo wish list...

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3/25/06, 10:13am
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>The pictures from last week's trip are online.
>http://www.ldphotography.net/Travel/20060314-17/

Cool! I'll go take a look.

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3/25/06, 12:53pm (Last Edited: 3/25/06, 12:53pm)
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Great pictures!

Those are places I've always wanted to visit. I've never seen the meteor crater, though I own a small piece of a meteorite that fell in Gambia. Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest N.P., though I own some petrified wood.

I can't figure out the last one with the drinking fountains! Why have fountains for non-potable water?

-Larry

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3/27/06, 2:27am
>Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest
>N.P., though I own some petrified wood.

If you ever do go there, don't bring that with you. You have to declare any petrified wood you may have when you enter the park, then they do random searches on cars as they leave. They're very serious about the "No collecting petrified wood" policy in the park!

>I can't figure out the last one with the drinking fountains!
>Why have fountains for non-potable water?

I don't know either. I hope that's just temporary while they fix whatever the problem is, but the sign sure looked permanent to me.

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3/27/06, 7:01am
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>>Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest
>>N.P., though I own some petrified wood.
>
>If you ever do go there, don't bring that with you. You have
>to declare any petrified wood you may have when you enter the
>park, then they do random searches on cars as they leave.
>They're very serious about the "No collecting petrified wood"
>policy in the park!
>
>>I can't figure out the last one with the drinking fountains!
>>Why have fountains for non-potable water?
>
>I don't know either. I hope that's just temporary while they
>fix whatever the problem is, but the sign sure looked
>permanent to me.

I went through there as a small child, but I THINK I remember that you could BUY a small piece of the wood in the visitor center. Is that still correct?

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3/27/06, 7:44am
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>>Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest
>>N.P., though I own some petrified wood.
>
>If you ever do go there, don't bring that with you. You have
>to declare any petrified wood you may have when you enter the
>park, then they do random searches on cars as they leave.
>They're very serious about the "No collecting petrified wood"
>policy in the park!
>
>>I can't figure out the last one with the drinking fountains!
>>Why have fountains for non-potable water?
>
>I don't know either. I hope that's just temporary while they
>fix whatever the problem is, but the sign sure looked
>permanent to me.


I visited the petrified forest as a little girl and still remember it. I believe there was a rock store there and I was able to buy a piece of it.....but then that was in the covered wagon days when they didnt realize the consequences.

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3/27/06, 8:34am
>I went through there as a small child, but I THINK I remember
>that you could BUY a small piece of the wood in the visitor
>center. Is that still correct?

I don't know. I didn't go into the gift shop part of the visitor's center. There are, however, about a gazillion Indian-run souvenir stands just outside the park that all advertise petrified wood for sale.

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3/27/06, 8:35am
>I visited the petrified forest as a little girl and still
>remember it. I believe there was a rock store there and I was
>able to buy a piece of it.....

I don't remember that from my last visit in 1978. Maybe you and Bill are thinking of the Indian shops outside of the park. Then again, I don't remember those from 1978, either.

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3/27/06, 9:41am
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>>Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest
>>N.P., though I own some petrified wood.
>
>If you ever do go there, don't bring that with you. You have
>to declare any petrified wood you may have when you enter the
>park, then they do random searches on cars as they leave.
>They're very serious about the "No collecting petrified wood"
>policy in the park!
>
>>I can't figure out the last one with the drinking fountains!
>>Why have fountains for non-potable water?
>
>I don't know either. I hope that's just temporary while they
>fix whatever the problem is, but the sign sure looked
>permanent to me.

I imagine they would have a very strict policy and that's a good thing.

No, mine is from the Mojave. Lots out there in spots.

Yep, that water fountain thing was odd. What if someone can't read English?

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3/28/06, 5:17am
>What if someone can't read English?

They shouldn't be here in the first place. That's a felony, isn't it?

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3/28/06, 6:26am
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>>I went through there as a small child, but I THINK I
>remember
>>that you could BUY a small piece of the wood in the visitor
>>center. Is that still correct?
>
>I don't know. I didn't go into the gift shop part of the
>visitor's center. There are, however, about a gazillion
>Indian-run souvenir stands just outside the park that all
>advertise petrified wood for sale.
>

Speaking of the trading posts...we went to the Grand Canyon a few years ago and the wife and I stopped at a couple along the way. Quite a few were selling objects that were made in China! But, I hear that there are some trading posts that really do specialize in native art, jewelery and rugs.

In your travels, have you ever come across such places?

Do you ever visit trading posts?

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3/28/06, 6:27am
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>>>Nor have I visited the Petrified Forest
>>>N.P., though I own some petrified wood.
>>
>>If you ever do go there, don't bring that with you. You have
>>to declare any petrified wood you may have when you enter
>the
>>park, then they do random searches on cars as they leave.
>>They're very serious about the "No collecting petrified
>wood"
>>policy in the park!
>>
>>>I can't figure out the last one with the drinking
>fountains!
>>>Why have fountains for non-potable water?
>>
>>I don't know either. I hope that's just temporary while they
>>fix whatever the problem is, but the sign sure looked
>>permanent to me.
>
>I imagine they would have a very strict policy and that's a
>good thing.
>
>No, mine is from the Mojave. Lots out there in spots.
>
>Yep, that water fountain thing was odd. What if someone can't
>read English?

That's how they restock all that missing wood!!

"Hey Joe, got another that drank the water! Back up the truck!"


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>>What if someone can't read English?
>
>They shouldn't be here in the first place. That's a felony,
>isn't it?

LOL!!!!!!! Its all part of the vast right-wing conspiracy

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>>Yep, that water fountain thing was odd. What if someone
>can't
>>read English?
>
>That's how they restock all that missing wood!!
>
>"Hey Joe, got another that drank the water! Back up the
>truck!"

LOL!!

Sort of like the moguls on ski slopes. They're really just dead skiers they covered up

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3/28/06, 10:35pm
I enjoy stopping in and visiting trading posts Bill.

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3/29/06, 7:03am
>Speaking of the trading posts...we went to the Grand Canyon a
>few years ago and the wife and I stopped at a couple along the
>way. Quite a few were selling objects that were made in China!
>But, I hear that there are some trading posts that really do
>specialize in native art, jewelery and rugs.
>
>In your travels, have you ever come across such places?
>
>Do you ever visit trading posts?

I see places like that a lot. They're all over Nevada and Arizona. The only one I've ever stopped at was a fireworks store east of Las Vegas. I dropped in to get something to drink (it was also a quickie-mart and casino) and because I was curious what kind of fireworks they had to sell. They had everything in there but atomic bombs! I couldn't believe the arsenal they had available. It was amazing. The place is on an Indian reservation, so they're immune to state anti-fireworks laws.

I saw dozens of stands on the side of the road as I drove from the Grand Canyon back to Flagstaff. I didn't stop because those ones just depressed me. It's sad how poor those people are, and the rundown shacks they're using to sell their wares makes it so obvious.

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>I enjoy stopping in and visiting trading posts Bill.

so..your report!

We want the 'inside' story....

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3/29/06, 10:41pm
The latest episode is still playing out. I'll let you know.

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