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Larry Levy  
Lightning Bugs
6/13/06, 8:58am
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Hi, Carol,

I hope you can help settle a bet here in the office. One of the people I work with asked if there was anywhere in California where we can see lightning bugs. I maintain we don't have them out here. I've never seen any, but that doesn't mean much.

Anyone else know, please join in.

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Thomas Canty
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6/13/06, 6:47pm
>I hope you can help settle a bet here in the office. One of
>the people I work with asked if there was anywhere in
>California where we can see lightning bugs. I maintain we
>don't have them out here. I've never seen any, but that
>doesn't mean much.
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>Anyone else know, please join in.

I used to see those all the time growing up in Nebraska. I haven't seen any out here except in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland. LOL

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Robert Jones  
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6/13/06, 7:59pm
Go out by the airport during early summer and catch a plane here and I will show you some. That is the only place in California that they can be seen.

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BestLight
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6/13/06, 9:25pm
When I was very young we lived in MD and NJ. One thing I loved about the east was lightning bugs in the summer.

Don't have them here in CO.

What habitat do they live in -- do they require humidity?

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6/13/06, 9:59pm
I am not sure. We do not see as many as we used to. I suspect that they are extremely sensitive to mosquito control efforts. I generally see them in deep forest or very rural areas.

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Larry Levy  
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6/14/06, 9:38am
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Thanks, Guys!!!

I didn't think they had any here. I've never seen any either.

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Re: Lightning Bugs
6/14/06, 1:41pm
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>Go out by the airport during early summer and catch a plane
>here and I will show you some. That is the only place in
>California that they can be seen.


Joining the crowd rushing to get on a plane to see these beautiful amazing creatures...

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Re: Lightning Bugs
6/15/06, 8:14am
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>Thanks, Guys!!!
>
>I didn't think they had any here. I've never seen any either.

When, as a kid my family took a trailer/vacation to the New York World's Fair, we were lucky enough to see TONS of fireflies!

But then..there were also tons of mosquitos...

Odd sort of insects..they DO look similar to what you see in Disneyland but in VASTLY greater numbers! (They swarm like most insects.)

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6/15/06, 8:46am
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>Odd sort of insects..they DO look similar to what you see in
>Disneyland but in VASTLY greater numbers! (They swarm like
>most insects.)
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>

The thing I would really like to see is the Northern Lights. If you remember last summer, they got close to here and were seen as far south as Northern California, but not down here.

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6/15/06, 7:21pm
>The thing I would really like to see is the Northern Lights.

That's pretty high on my list of things I need to see, also.

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Larry Levy  
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6/16/06, 9:01am
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>>The thing I would really like to see is the Northern Lights.
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>That's pretty high on my list of things I need to see, also.
>

Well, we almost got to see them down here last summer. Some people up in the Antelope Valley reported seeing a faint glow in the sky, but nothing very dramatic.

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Carol  
Re: Lightning Bugs
6/16/06, 2:21pm (Last Edited: 6/16/06, 2:27pm)
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>Hi, Carol,
>
>I hope you can help settle a bet here in the office. One of
>the people I work with asked if there was anywhere in
>California where we can see lightning bugs. I maintain we
>don't have them out here. I've never seen any, but that
>doesn't mean much.
>
>Anyone else know, please join in.

Yes, you can see them on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland

I think that they're mainly east of the Rockies. I've heard of people seeing "glow worms" (possibly firefly nymphs) in California. But the furthest west I've ever heard of people seeing mature fireflies is near Pole Mountain, Wyoming.

See here...

http://ask.yahoo.com/20010713.html

Also... "They (fireflies) grow and mature only in some states. Most fireflies are found east of the Mississippi River, a few are ever seen west of the Rocky Mountains. One rarely, if ever, finds a firefly in California, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, or in west Texas. The Climates of those regions of the US are not right for egg-laying and the other developmental stages leading to firefly maturity." From the book "FIREFLIES in Nature and the Laboratory" by Lynn and Gray Poole

The only places I have seen fireflies are in Florida and Tennessee... And Disneyland!

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6/16/06, 2:41pm
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That seems to be the consensus. Thanks, Carol!

I guess my co-worker will be off to Disneyland

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Re: Lightning Bugs
6/17/06, 6:06am (Last Edited: 6/17/06, 6:07am)
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>>The thing I would really like to see is the Northern
>Lights.
>
>That's pretty high on my list of things I need to see, also.
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>Well, we almost got to see them down here last summer. Some
>people up in the Antelope Valley reported seeing a faint glow
>in the sky, but nothing very dramatic.

That was a well known RRBBS member and Indian fireworks....

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6/17/06, 9:42am
>>Well, we almost got to see them down here last summer. Some
>>people up in the Antelope Valley reported seeing a faint
>glow
>>in the sky, but nothing very dramatic.
>
>That was a well known RRBBS member and Indian fireworks....

ROFL!

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6/17/06, 2:30pm
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>>Well, we almost got to see them down here last summer. Some
>>people up in the Antelope Valley reported seeing a faint
>glow
>>in the sky, but nothing very dramatic.
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>That was a well known RRBBS member and Indian fireworks....
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right!!!

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6/17/06, 8:44pm
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Carol.......I have a question for you. My kids have a soft sided fold out trailer and they have made reservations in Sequoia in July. Now they are hearing really scary stories about how bears have ripped car doors off to get at some Cherrios left on a car seat!!

Are they in danger camping there with their dog and two young kids? What precautions should they take?

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6/18/06, 9:41am
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>Carol.......I have a question for you. My kids have a soft
>sided fold out trailer and they have made reservations in
>Sequoia in July. Now they are hearing really scary stories
>about how bears have ripped car doors off to get at some
>Cherrios left on a car seat!!
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>Are they in danger camping there with their dog and two young
>kids? What precautions should they take?

What you need is decorations for the tent trailer..say...a few dozen hot dogs on a string!

(Seriously, it doesn't matter if are you camping in Sequoia or the beach, you should ALWAYS take precautions to seal up your food and anything else..like chap stick..into animal proof containers. Bears? Yea sure...but it the raccoons that *I* have seen tear apart a few tents!)

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6/18/06, 10:36am (Last Edited: 6/18/06, 10:37am)
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>Carol.......I have a question for you. My kids have a soft
>sided fold out trailer and they have made reservations in
>Sequoia in July. Now they are hearing really scary stories
>about how bears have ripped car doors off to get at some
>Cherrios left on a car seat!!
>
>Are they in danger camping there with their dog and two young
>kids? What precautions should they take?

Typically the bears haven't been targeting RV's. But that doesn't mean that they can't get into RV's, even the hard sided kind. Two years ago we had a bear break into a motorhome on the forest to get some dog food that was stored inside! To be safe I wouldn't store any food or good smelling stuff in the trailer... I'd use the bear-proof box provided at each campsite.

Other precautions:

1. Fix dinner, eat, and cleanup before it gets dark. Keep a clean campsite. Pick up food scraps and deposit all trash in the bear-proof dumpsters frequently. Keep that bear box closed whenever you're not immediately next to it.

2. Keep the kids close by. Give them a whistle to wear in case they get lost or need help. Keep the dog on a leash. Dogs aren't allowed on trails in the park.

3. Talk to the kids about what they should do if they see a bear. Go to a ranger program on bears if one's offered when they're there!

4. Clean your car and trailer before you go - vacuum it well on the inside. Don't use fragrances in either.

5. Make sure you do a final check before you go to sleep that anything that smells good is in that bear box.

6. Have fun! Remember, the park bears are just out for your food. Put that food in the bear box and you'll be fine.

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6/18/06, 10:46am
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Thanks so much Carol.....I'll send the info along to my kids.

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