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a sad day in the woods
12/9/06, 2:59pm
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Took a drive today, hoping to get rid of the ho-hum feelings I've been having the past couple of weeks, but now, I'm even more bummed out, after finding a very emmaciated, perhaps ill, bobcat in the road. By it's size, it looks immature, and it's one eye was not opening. It just lay in the road for a while, then a sheriff happened by and radioed the fg (fish and game) warden who drove up a few minutes later and got out his handy pole with the intent of seeing what the animal would do. Conversation between the sheriff and fg guy alluded to another animal they had encountered in the past, that suddenly perked up and ran when prodded. After hearing that, I backed up a few yards, and the sheriff moved into the road, as the fg guy said he'd try to get it moving off the road into the brush. There was also a brief discussion between them about getting an animal cage, putting the animal in that and taking it out into the woods, away from the road. First though, they'd see what the cat did when the pole was used.

The poor cat did not like that pole, and rose to very wobbly feet when touched by it. The bobcat then hobbled slowly off the road, down the bank and lay down again. I don't think it has very long to live.

I took a number of photos, all of which are sad and almost bring tears to my eyes. As I sit here typing this, I'm getting very mopey at the thought of a once beautiful, wild cat dying. While in the presence of that cat, I got thinking about the feisty bobcat that visited my yard a few weeks ago and wondered if by any chance, that cat was this one, ill and now dying, but then I recalled it was much larger than this one, so this is an entirely different cat.

The past two years have brought plenty of rain, and small prey animals such as rabbits and quail are abundant in this area, so a healthy cat should have no trouble finding food. Why this young cat is so emmaciated is unknown, perhaps it's injured eye got infected, and the infection went systemic. Perhaps it got in a fight and never recovered. Nature thins things out, one way or another. Then again, in the wild kingdom, it's eat or get eaten. I imagine this bobcat will feed the carrion birds soon, and they'll have full tummies for a few days. It's part of the cycle of things, but knowing this once pretty cat is dying is so sad to me, with my soft heart, love for cats, and joy of life.

I briefly thought about stopping in the store and buying a pound of meat and taking it stealthily to the cat, thinking some food might perk it up. I thought about beef, ground, or steaks, or chicken, and what would be best for an ill cat. Thought about driving home and grabbing some dry cat food and taking that back. Wondered how long the sheriff and warden would linger and if I'd get caught and in trouble... drove past the store and home again, and sat down at this keyboard instead. Poor cat. Sad day for it. Maybe a good day for something that would like to prey on it. Life cycles.
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12/9/06, 10:35pm
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Poor bobcat!

I'm glad you guys tried to do something for him. Unfortunately, that is nature.

I've only seen one bobcat in the wild. It ran across Malibu Canyon Road in front of us one time. Since I started working at Pepperdine in Malibu, I haven't seen any wild cats, though I've heard they are around.

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12/10/06, 12:12am
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Oooh... the poor bobcat.

I was never an animal lover until Rob insisted to get a dog in the beginning stages of our marriage. I'm now more aware of animals and have come to love and appreciate them.

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12/10/06, 1:06pm
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I've always loved animals! I can't imagine not having them around. I own: 3 cats, 3 turtles, 3 ducks, 7 chickens, a couple kids and a husband (snicker on the last).

I love seeing animals when I'm out and about, and wild animals are simply awesome to see, out in the woods where they belong.

As for the little bobcat, maybe it was a very old, ill thing. Don't know. My son (aged 13) can't bear to see any animal ill or dead. When I showed him the image of that bobcat,on my computer, he turned away instantly with a very sad look on his face. Then I told him the animal was still alive and he came and looked at the image again. Poor boy. He used to cry over roadkill, up until a year ago! He finally told me to not tell him when I saw any snakes in the road.... soft heart in this boy.

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12/10/06, 5:03pm
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Sounds like my kind of kid. I know I would never like it when I saw a movie where an animal dies. Even as a small kid, I could never watch Bambi or Old Yeller, etc.

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12/11/06, 6:56am
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I, too, hate to see animals that are sick or hurt. I had the horrible experience the other day of seeing a cat being hit by a car. I was driving to Porterville and a car coming my way hit a cat. There was no way to avoid it, the cat just came from nowhere and darted out. But the car didn't run it over, just hit it. The cat flipped and flew through the air and miraculously landed on its feet and, although stunned, took off running. I stopped and turned around to try and find it but it was no where to be found. Todd tried to comfort me and say that if it was okay enough to run off it was probably okay. But I won't get that image of the cat getting hit out of my head anytime soon...

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Re: a sad day in the woods
12/12/06, 9:35am
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Hmmm, once again I posted a message as a guest. I have to not do that.... I'm assuming it will appear. Well, since it hasn't, yet, forgive me if I repeat myself:

Larry, if you want to see wild animals like bobcats, I've discovered driving at dusk or dawn is when you have more opportunities, or on very dreary, overcast days. Those seem to be when I see the more interesting creatures, but it takes many outings to catch a glimpse of a fox or bobcat! For all my years in these mountains, I've yet to see a mountain lion. 15 years, and not one! Well, maybe, once, late at night I saw the tail of one, I'm not certain, it passed so fast, and it was a tufted, long tail, that I saw. On the otherhand, I've seen dozens of bobcats over the years.

I'd think the coastal mountains are home to many small, predatory mammals, but they are very stealthy. If there are creeks, the animals probably frequent those areas most.

Carol, seeing that poor cat get hit must have been terrible! If it got hit hard, it's probably hurting and not doing well. I hope it made it back to it's people and they are keeping an eye on it.

I own cats, and they go outside, but only into my enclosed back yard. The electric fence we have strung keeps them in (and most of the predators out). My cats come in at night, as I know there are many owls here.

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Re: a sad day in the woods
12/12/06, 9:58am
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Right. My late grandad was an outdoorsman and he told me that those were the times of day when you would be most likely to see wildlife. That was certainly when we would see animals on our annual summer trips to Yosemite.

The deer around campus here seem to come out at that time too.

I did see a fox not too long ago on my drive home. It was sitting in the middle of a recently plowed field off Malibu Canyon Road.

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12/12/06, 10:45am
>it takes
>many outings to catch a glimpse of a fox or bobcat!

I saw my first (and only) bobcat and fox within a minute of each other. I was driving home from a hike near Wrightwood a few years ago on Angeles Crest Highway when I passed a bobcat laying on a huge rock next to the road, just watching the traffic whizz by.

Not even a mile further, after only a couple turns in the road, a fox ran across the road in front of me. Pretty cool day.

>I've yet to see a mountain lion.

I've seen one, and like the bobcat and fox, only one, and while driving. I was driving past the Wildlife Waystation in Little Tujunga Canyon when it darted across the road in front of me. I've always wondered if it was a truly wild animal or an escapee from the waystation... It was right there by the waystation's entrance.

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12/12/06, 12:29pm
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>>I've yet to see a mountain lion.
>
>I've seen one, and like the bobcat and fox, only one, and
>while driving. I was driving past the Wildlife Waystation in
>Little Tujunga Canyon when it darted across the road in front
>of me. I've always wondered if it was a truly wild animal or
>an escapee from the waystation... It was right there by the
>waystation's entrance.
>
>

He may have been visiting his relatives

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12/13/06, 10:12am
Zhakee, I read this a day or two ago and and have been wanting to respond. It is a very touching piece. I feel for that sick, injured cat and his plight is a sad one. I am glad that you refrained from intervening by providing food. His candle has burned dim and hopefully his suffering has ended.

When he passes he makes room for others who remain unseen in the forest. He makes room for those fluffy little fur balls with eyes that are maturing to the point that they need range and prey. They will take his place and this cat has passed genetics on so that he will live through them. This cat was once as they are and others had to pass before him to make way for him to live.

He has lived a wild and free life. I don't think he could have asked for or wanted anything more. I think if he was given food that his suffering and demise would have only been prolonged.

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12/13/06, 6:11pm
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Robert, I'm not one for feeding wild animals, but that thought did cross my mind, but only for a few minutes! The day of that encounter, a storm came in during the night, and temps dropped, so I'm guessing the weather would have sped things up as far as the cat lingering. I did drive back to that area yesterday, walked around, but saw no sign of the cat. Hopefully, it found somewhere to hide and fall asleep, a safe place to pass in peace.

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12/13/06, 8:16pm
>Robert, I'm not one for feeding wild animals, but that thought
>did cross my mind, but only for a few minutes! The day of
>that encounter, a storm came in during the night, and temps
>dropped, so I'm guessing the weather would have sped things up
>as far as the cat lingering. I did drive back to that area
>yesterday, walked around, but saw no sign of the cat.
>Hopefully, it found somewhere to hide and fall asleep, a safe
>place to pass in peace.
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>


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12/22/06, 5:55am
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> I, too, hate to see animals that are sick or hurt. I had
>the horrible experience the other day of seeing a cat being
>hit by a car. I was driving to Porterville and a car coming
>my way hit a cat. There was no way to avoid it, the cat just
>came from nowhere and darted out. But the car didn't run it
>over, just hit it. The cat flipped and flew through the air
>and miraculously landed on its feet and, although stunned,
>took off running. I stopped and turned around to try and find
>it but it was no where to be found. Todd tried to comfort me
>and say that if it was okay enough to run off it was probably
>okay. But I won't get that image of the cat getting hit out
>of my head anytime soon...

When we first started riding motorcycles just 2 blocks from home we hit something in the road driving in the dark....at a slow speed. We both were carted off to the hospital and later we got the police report.

Passengers transported to local hospital...Motorcycle drivable...Fatalities...one cat.

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12/22/06, 5:57am
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>Right. My late grandad was an outdoorsman and he told me that
>those were the times of day when you would be most likely to
>see wildlife. That was certainly when we would see animals on
>our annual summer trips to Yosemite.
>
>The deer around campus here seem to come out at that time
>too.
>
>I did see a fox not too long ago on my drive home. It was
>sitting in the middle of a recently plowed field off Malibu
>Canyon Road.

Again.......what a lovely place to work Larry. You are so lucky. We'll be riding up there for breakfast in February. I hear the view from the restaurant is fantastic.

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12/22/06, 6:01am
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>>it takes
>>many outings to catch a glimpse of a fox or bobcat!
>
>I saw my first (and only) bobcat and fox within a minute
>of each other. I was driving home from a hike near Wrightwood
>a few years ago on Angeles Crest Highway when I passed a
>bobcat laying on a huge rock next to the road, just watching
>the traffic whizz by.
>
>Not even a mile further, after only a couple turns in the
>road, a fox ran across the road in front of me. Pretty cool
>day.
>
>>I've yet to see a mountain lion.
>
>I've seen one, and like the bobcat and fox, only one, and
>while driving. I was driving past the Wildlife Waystation in
>Little Tujunga Canyon when it darted across the road in front
>of me. I've always wondered if it was a truly wild animal or
>an escapee from the waystation... It was right there by the
>waystation's entrance.

When we lived near there we were safe trapping racoons that kept killing the koi in our pond....We heard a heck of a noise one morning and discovered a bobcat in our cage...just mad as all get out.....Mr B didnt even transport him away he just got the cage open and let him go.

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12/22/06, 8:10am
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>Again.......what a lovely place to work Larry. You are so
>lucky. We'll be riding up there for breakfast in February.
>I hear the view from the restaurant is fantastic.

I reallly am lucky to work here. For instance today, I'm sick, but I offered to cover the office for my co-worker so she could start enjoying the holiday weekend with family that are arriving today. The minute I got here and looked at the view, I felt a bit better.

Do you guys mean the cafe at the Drescher Graduate Campus? It's at the top of the hill where "The Heroes Garden" is. There are hotel rooms people can rent there at the conference center.

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12/22/06, 3:28pm
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>>Again.......what a lovely place to work Larry. You are so
>>lucky. We'll be riding up there for breakfast in
>February.
>>I hear the view from the restaurant is fantastic.
>
>I reallly am lucky to work here. For instance today, I'm sick,
>but I offered to cover the office for my co-worker so she
>could start enjoying the holiday weekend with family that are
>arriving today. The minute I got here and looked at the view,
>I felt a bit better.
>
>Do you guys mean the cafe at the Drescher Graduate Campus?
>It's at the top of the hill where "The Heroes Garden" is.
>There are hotel rooms people can rent there at the conference
>center.

Im not sure what cafe they meant. Our two friends that work there are putting it together for us. BTW they mentioned the security was going to be tightened, at the main gate, come January. Have you heard about that?

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12/22/06, 9:12pm
>Passengers transported to local hospital...Motorcycle
>drivable...Fatalities...one cat.

When I got my first motorcycle, a short time later I almost hit a dog when it darted into the street in front of me. I made some quick maneuvers to avoid it and managed to miss the dog. I don't know how I kept the bike upright throughout that, though.

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12/22/06, 9:13pm
>We heard a heck of a noise
>one morning and discovered a bobcat in our cage...just mad as
>all get out.....

I'll bet that was one very pissed off bobcat!

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12/23/06, 1:12am
I have a good bobcat story but will have to share later.

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12/23/06, 8:34pm
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>>Do you guys mean the cafe at the Drescher Graduate Campus?
>>It's at the top of the hill where "The Heroes Garden" is.
>>There are hotel rooms people can rent there at the
>conference
>>center.
>
>Im not sure what cafe they meant. Our two friends that work
>there are putting it together for us. BTW they mentioned the
>security was going to be tightened, at the main gate, come
>January. Have you heard about that?

I would guess that's the one. Or the main Waves Cafe at the Student Union. Both have nice views.

No, all I have heard is that they are closing the gate off PCH for this next week.

That's the two guys from Copy Services, I think you said before?

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12/23/06, 8:34pm
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Please share!

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12/24/06, 12:46pm
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>>Passengers transported to local hospital...Motorcycle
>>drivable...Fatalities...one cat.
>
>When I got my first motorcycle, a short time later I almost
>hit a dog when it darted into the street in front of me. I
>made some quick maneuvers to avoid it and managed to miss the
>dog. I don't know how I kept the bike upright throughout that,
>though.

In all the classes I took they always said that you should not try to avoid a small obstacle rather you should give it some gas and look straight ahead. Theory being where ever you look is where the bike is going to go!

I remember taking those wonderful curves up Angeles Crest one sunny day and a rabbit darted across the road. I actually closed my eyes for an instant and gassed it......Thank goodness I missed him.

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Re: Bobcats
12/24/06, 12:48pm
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>>We heard a heck of a noise
>>one morning and discovered a bobcat in our cage...just mad
>as
>>all get out.....
>
>I'll bet that was one very pissed off bobcat!

At first we thought it was a cat by the sounds it made but then saw the short ears and big body. Mr B put on his biker gloves and a heavy coat before he let him loose for fear hed come after him.

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12/24/06, 12:51pm
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the main Waves Cafe at the
>Student Union. Both have nice views.
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>No, all I have heard is that they are closing the gate off PCH
>for this next week.
>
>That's the two guys from Copy Services, I think you said
>before?

Thats it.....the Main Waves Cafge at the student union. We heard they are tightening security and asking for ID for everyone that enters AND closing the gae off PCH.

Yes its the two guys that work in copy services.

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12/24/06, 6:17pm
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>the main Waves Cafe at the
>>Student Union. Both have nice views.
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>>No, all I have heard is that they are closing the gate off
>PCH
>>for this next week.
>>
>>That's the two guys from Copy Services, I think you said
>>before?
>
>Thats it.....the Main Waves Cafge at the student union. We
>heard they are tightening security and asking for ID for
>everyone that enters AND closing the gae off PCH.
>
>Yes its the two guys that work in copy services.

Wow. I hadn't heard about that. That will slow things down at the gate in the mornings. I hope they are only doing that with people who don't have either faculty/staff or student stickers on their cars.

Enjoy and say hi to Cindy, if she is working there. She is the nicest lady. Works one of the cashier stations.

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12/25/06, 6:38am
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>>the main Waves Cafe at the
>>>Student Union. Both have nice views.
>>>

>Enjoy and say hi to Cindy, if she is working there. She is the
>nicest lady. Works one of the cashier stations.

Hey.......tell her we're on our way just before the ride and maybe she can get us good seats.

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Larry Levy  
Re: a sad day in the woods
12/25/06, 7:18pm
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>>>the main Waves Cafe at the
>>>>Student Union. Both have nice views.
>>>>
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>>Enjoy and say hi to Cindy, if she is working there. She is
>the
>>nicest lady. Works one of the cashier stations.
>
>Hey.......tell her we're on our way just before the ride and
>maybe she can get us good seats.

I'm not there on weekends. This isn't my old job

She's a really nice Jamaican lady.

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