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Thomas Canty
Larry Levy  
Red Rover Mine
3/25/05, 10:05pm
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Maybe this isn't such a good idea afterall........

Note it also says the mine is 3 mi NW of Acton in Soledad Canyon. That doesn't match whatever mine I saw on that ridge.

L.A. COUNTY FIREFIGHTERS DOUSE BLAZE
IN ABANDONED MINE, HEED DOC’S WARNING
TO ‘STAY OUT, STAY ALIVE’

ACTON, CA. – The Los Angeles County Fire Department battled a blaze in the abandoned Red Rover Mine, once owned by a former governor of California, for hours early Saturday morning. The California Department of Conservation provided the firefighters with some insight about the mine’s layout and the same cautionary words it gives to all those who go near abandoned mines:

“Stay out, stay alive.”

Firefighters arrived at the old gold mine -- located about three miles northwest of Acton in Soledad Canyon – about 3 a.m. They unsuccessfully used water to try to quell the blaze but managed to put it out using high-expansion foam.

According to the fire department, the blaze started on a wooden frame above a 30-foot deep shaft. It appears that lateral tunnels running off the shaft brought in air to keep the fire burning, and timbers inside the mine fueled the fire. There is no indication of how the fire started or whether anyone was inside the mine.

“We warned the fire department personnel about the possibility that the shaft may be much deeper than they could see,” DOC Director of Communications Carol Dahmen said. “There might have been debris blocking the shaft. We indicated that they should use caution if they were to enter the shaft. They had no intention of doing so, which is the smart move.”

California Governor Henry T. Gage owned the Red Rover Mine from 1899-1903. It consisted of six shafts ranging from 100 to 650 feet deep covering about a quarter of a mile along the strike of the vein. Most of the shafts have been filled in. The property was inactive from 1912-1931, when the Governor Mines Company acquired it. In 1938, about 200 tons of ore valued at $10 per ton were mined. It has been inactive since the early 1940s, and nearly all of the machinery has been removed.

The L.A. County Fire Department indicated that there was a mine rescue at the Governor Mine – about a mile away from the Red Rover Mine – several years ago. Department of Conservation records indicated that there is a body in the Governor Mine in an area too dangerous to allow removal.

DOC’s Office of Mine Reclamation last year did a study stating that there are approximately 39,000 abandoned mines in the state. The study estimated that 84 percent of those historic mines present some physical safety hazard, such as unstable structures that could collapse. An additional 11 percent present environmental hazards, such as old explosives, chemicals and poisonous gasses.

In addition to studying and mapping abandoned mines, the Department of Conservation ensures the reclamation of land used for mining; maps and categorizes mineral resources; promotes beverage container recycling; regulates oil, gas and geothermal wells; studies and maps earthquakes and other geologic phenomena; and administers agricultural and open-space land conservation programs.

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3/25/05, 10:18pm
>Note it also says the mine is 3 mi NW of Acton in Soledad
>Canyon. That doesn't match whatever mine I saw on that ridge.

I've always known that was the mine, but I don't know why. I must have read it somewhere. I pass the mine every time I take Soledad Canyon Road to Agua Dulce Canyon Road on my way to Vasquez Rocks. You can see the mine on the side of the hill on the other side of a wash, but I've never seen a road leading to it. It would take some serious scrambling to get there from the road.

Yeah, actually going inside the mines is never really recommended, though I've done it several times myself. There are a lot of potention dangers besides fire, like bad air/gas pockets or tunnel collapses.

Have you ever been in the Bighorn Mine on the side of Mount Baden-Powell? That one is really neat. It'll be pretty hard to get to for a while, though. That's where the rain, snow, rock slides and avalanches have taken out several miles of Angeles Crest Highway.

By the way, my dad had a metal detector. When he died in 1991, I somehow inherited it. It's been in my bedroom closet ever since. I've never even turned it on. You're welcome to it, if you want. I'm not guaranteeing it works or that I even have all the parts, but I'll dig it out of the closet and see what I have.

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3/26/05, 11:02am
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I must have been looking at the wrong mine. There are a bunch in that area, all dating from the 1880's. I'll have to try your route just to say I saw where the Red Rover Mine was.

I would not ever get close to one.

Yes, by all means, take that metal detector and use it on the tailings of any known old gold mine. Its a slow process but the old time miners did not have effecient means of extracting all the gold, so you will be surprised what you might find. You will also find a lot of old stuff that could be interesting too, maybe old nails, etc. I've never done it, but I've seen tapes of it done. I know how you love to visit old ghost towns, etc, if you that that with you, I know you'll find all sorts of neat old stuff. Give it a try.

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3/27/05, 4:53am
>Yes, by all means, take that metal detector and use it on the
>tailings of any known old gold mine.

I doubt I'll ever use it. It's just collecting dust in my closet.

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3/27/05, 6:01am
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>>Yes, by all means, take that metal detector and use it on
>the
>>tailings of any known old gold mine.
>
>I doubt I'll ever use it. It's just collecting dust in my
>closet.
>

Know what......If you dont want it Ive got 4 grandkids that would love to comb the beach with it....How can I get it from you?

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3/27/05, 9:29am
>Know what......If you dont want it Ive got 4 grandkids that
>would love to comb the beach with it....How can I get it from
>you?

I already offered it to Larry. If he doesn't want it, though, it's up for grabs. Like I said before though, I can't even guarantee it works or that I have all the parts for it. I threw it in my closet when my dad died 14 years ago and I haven't even looked at it since then.

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3/27/05, 10:01am
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Thomas,

Give it a try first. You might get some fun out of it.

With the hiking you and Ashley do, if you take the detector along, you may even find Vasquez' lost treasure

If you don't want it, let me know and I'll make you an offer.

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Re: Red Rover Mine
3/27/05, 1:32pm
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>>Know what......If you dont want it Ive got 4 grandkids that
>>would love to comb the beach with it....How can I get it
>from
>>you?
>
>I already offered it to Larry. If he doesn't want it, though,
>it's up for grabs. Like I said before though, I can't even
>guarantee it works or that I have all the parts for it. I
>threw it in my closet when my dad died 14 years ago and I
>haven't even looked at it since then.


Oooooops I thought Larry said he didnt want it.......Lets fight over it.

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3/28/05, 5:44am
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>>Know what......If you dont want it Ive got 4 grandkids that
>>would love to comb the beach with it....How can I get it
>from
>>you?
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>I already offered it to Larry. If he doesn't want it, though,
>it's up for grabs. Like I said before though, I can't even
>guarantee it works or that I have all the parts for it. I
>threw it in my closet when my dad died 14 years ago and I
>haven't even looked at it since then.

What? You promised it to Larry??

NOW how am I gonna find grandpa?


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3/28/05, 9:48am
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>What? You promised it to Larry??
>
>NOW how am I gonna find grandpa?
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>

Was Grandpa made out of metal?

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3/28/05, 10:46am
>Give it a try first. You might get some fun out of it.

It would be a bit too awkward to carry my camera gear and the detector, and I'm more interested in using the camera.

>If you don't want it, let me know and I'll make you an offer.

I'll dig it out of the closet this week sometime and let you know.

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3/28/05, 10:48am
>NOW how am I gonna find grandpa?

You need a metal detector for that?

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Re: Red Rover Mine
3/28/05, 1:11pm
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>>Give it a try first. You might get some fun out of it.
>
>It would be a bit too awkward to carry my camera gear
>and the detector, and I'm more interested in using the
>camera.
>
>>If you don't want it, let me know and I'll make you an
>offer.
>
>I'll dig it out of the closet this week sometime and let you
>know.
>

Ok dokes. It might be interesting. Maybe I could find enough so I can quit my job Yeah right

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